Thanks Pam, I tried cleaning out the lint OMG I'm so ashamed :oops: It was full. Anyway it did help but did not completely alleviate the problem. I will try some more of you suggestions, although the machine is threaded right and the bobbin is in correctly. I put a metal freemotion foot on you know the one with the large opening on the foot and it started soon after that so that might be the problem. Has anyone else had this problem with these feet?