steihy,
I measured a few of the needles I mentioned previously and here are the results. The needles without the overall length are from the Muva catalog which I posted the link to. All have a 2mm shank except for 175x3 at 1.75mm
29x3, 29x4--(odd numbers cloth even leather) -----45.00mm length------38.83mm shank to eye
1x1, system 81 ---------------------------------------49.09-----------------42.52
16x63-------------------------------------------------45.20------------------40.08
175x3-------------------------------------------------------------------------41.4
135x16, 135x17--------------------------------------------------------------38.9
Jon
Last edited by jlhmnj; 01-26-2016 at 09:31 PM.