Having read all of the previous comments let me say this. My area no longer has any shows on PBS aside from the occasional Quilting Arts. Years ago there were a half dozen different ones that I taped while I was working at school and then watched with great delight over the weekend. I've seen Mary Fons with and without her mom, never with Liz Porter, and a variety of other guests, but these were all on You-tube videos. Got say, I'm a fan and 75 yrs old. I enjoy her personality and appreciate the attempts to draw in younger people. Wish her lots of success. Maybe the Fons and Porter want to slow down - even retire and enjoy life a bit.