Mary had to grow on me too; if she is like me I also do not like being up in front of people - and yet like Mary I am too. Thankfully not on tv. I give her great credit for jumping in to save the show. And Liz has been on there several times with Mary when mom wasn't available. Am sure her mom will one day want to retire also. Hope she hangs in there. I used to get several shows but now only get F&P and Sewing with Nancy.