First thanks for the laugh /Doghousemom. Then thanks for all your help to everyone. We decided to use polyester batting 'cause she wants it for floor use. Then we are machine tying it with the ilet (sp) design on my machine. Working out so far. Then I left my old needle (sharp) in and no problems so far. We did not birth it and no tucks (used spray baste). Down and dirty....simple and quick. I think she will make it.