My friend has the Pfaff Hobby 1200 Grand with a Grace frame set-up. I am a novice with machine quilting and have had the privilege of quilting with her a few times. Everything went smoothly. She has had the system for years and is "at one" with it. I understand that it takes quite a lot of oil. The throat is not huge, but she seems to be able to work with that. I have done pantographs with her and had so much fun!