I am from Oregon. We encourage each other to think and live green. I buy refurbished as much as possible, also keeps prices closer to my budget. I am even typing this on a refurbished iPad. The trick with refurbished, is only buy refurbished from a known source. I bought this IPad through Appl themselves. They make it, they can refurbish it properly. Never had any issues doing so. My fancy quilting machine was a "demo" model also, and have been using it nearly eight years with no issues.