I had a Viking 18x8 which was a tin Lizzie. Had nothing but trouble with it until I had a tin Lizzie tech work on it and it worked really good. I bought a new 18" tinn lizzie last fall from Sabrina at Janesville, wisc. A great machine with 100% support! I do like the 18" as that is all the further I can reach anyway! Good luck with your decision!