You can get good deals at shows. My dealer is always at the shows in my area and he does sponsor some of the classes so there are always used classroom models at shows.These tend to be the good deals. If it is a newly released model the dealer generally has less deals on them unless the manufacturer is having a special. My dealer for the classroom models the people in the classes get the offer first and then at the end of the show he will offer them at a special price and if they don't sell then it will be offered during their sales throughout the year. To me the best deals I have found on machines is at my dealers special events like floriani or anita good. I have seen machines at good price with tons of extras thrown in. I bought my machine before going to one and the next upgrade I do will be at an event. Generally me dealer doesn't like to haul stuff back from a large show so going towards the end might be a good idea if its a large volume dealer like mine