Thanks everyone I did get the timing corrected and was able to get the thread up and around. Unfortunately I discovered that the timing will never stay set as the (teeth?) gears cogs have been damaged on both the metal and plastic. Which causes the timing to slip. Too many projects with arctic fleece and not enough patients/care. The belt has ware on the cogs as well. Even if I could find the parts I wouldn't know how to do this repair. Soooo no luck fixing this one, I am sad to admit defeat but I got a lot out this machine learned a lot about sewing and now I know more about the machines. Good news I found a kenmore 12 at the thrift store seems in working order for 10$. Needs cleaning and likely some oil makes it easier to let go of the first one. Thanks again