I love my Bernina 1090, which is a very old machine. A machine does not have to be expensive or new to have a nice stitch. I would, however, not recommend the Bernina 580 if you are wanting a combination sewing/embroidery machine. Some people love it. Others, like me found it complicated and confusing to use. It does have a nice embroidery stitch. I actually returned my 580 after having it less than 6 months and got a Babylock. So, be sure to try the 580 machine out by yourself without someone sitting next to you telling you how to operate the machine.