Mickey, thanks these machines are the in the 385 series, this style is not new they been around probably since the 80's??. The 8 -12 refer to the # of stitches. Not sure that they qualify as a vintage machine but I don't think this style is carried in stores anymore. not a lot of fix it info on this machine either. I think with the proper care the 12 should work for me for many years to come.
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