My first time hand quilting I did it without a hoop - like Lynnie, I didn't know there was such a thing. Then I found a full sized quilting frame at a yard sale. It wasn't one of the big heavy ones, it was one I was able to put together and store it in the garage, because it would go flat against the wall when not in use. When I did use it, it just took up too much room, so after using it to make a couple of quilts it was sold in a yard sale once again. And then I found the Hinterberg hoops with the stands and loved them. I have a couple of the hoops and a frame for embroidery/needlepoint. I have a glider chair to sit in while using the hoops. It's a comfortable chair and easy to get in and out.