Anyone using magic 8 to make hst then using those to make the 1/4 square triangles, I started w/ 8 3/4 square made perfect 4.5 hst, made really close 3.5 qst, had to trim just a bit off each side of the triangle (I trim before pressing open while it is still a triangle.) (oh and can't use the magic 8 for the qst, you have to revert to the 2 method for that step)