I have ordered this quilt frame from Thimble Lady along with a package of her needles and I should receive them this week. I received a starter kit from her before the holidays and since I started hand quilting about 35 years ago it was hard to change the motion of my hands at first but now I love it because I have arthritis in my thumbs and her method doesn't make my hands sore and no more pricked fingers on the underside hand. I will let you know about the frame when it arrives.