[QUOTE=bkay;7740922]This might give you some additional info
http://forums.threadsmagazine.com/ga...-im-interested
bkay[/ Thanks for info. I tried to join the forum with threads magazine, but the passwords are impossible. I finally gave up.I will try later when i am not so aggravated I did print both manuals. Mine looks more like the 3000 but it says 5000. and it say quilt master on it also? cmaras1234