Watson, I know from previous posts you've had that you are interested in a long arm machine. When I was first looking I found a ton of helpful information on the LongArm University website--she's not really pushing a particular brand, but gives a lot of info on what to consider in choosing a machine, she also has listings for used machines which you might find helpful. Good luck--your quilts are so creative that I can understand why you want to start more complex quilting.