the Hancy and plastic Stencil is going to react differently. Pounce in the black container is chalk and must be pounced. Miracle Chalk in the red container (both in the eraser looking pad) is usually swiped. But again is applied differently. Have you looked for a YouTube of the type you have. Also, there have been many reports that the pink or blue chalk does not come out. The pounce chalk is removed by brushing and washing. The Miracle Chalk the same way but can be removed with steam. However I don't use steam because I don't believe with my non scientific mind the chemical in the Miracle Chalk completely disappears in steaming but still must be washed to remove it.