Have you made 4 Thieves Vinegar? My original recipe had Rue in it, but Later versions I have seen do not have the Rue in them. My favorite bottles are the ones with a ceramic and metal bail on them. I think I first saw the 4 Thieves recipe in an old copy of Organic Gardening magazine. I no longer have a garden or orchard, and have given away most of my canning supplies. When you are searching for supplies, may I suggest Mtn. Rose Herbs in Oregon. I wish you much success in your brewing.