My 1st frame was a Grace Pro frame and though they claim it to be a 10ft, it was actually 129" so 9 inches longer. Then I changed over to the Innova frame 12ft thinking I'd have extra but it was the exact opposite. Its 12ft from outside edge to outside edge. I was disappointed as someone mentioned you need to take in consideration the machine head/carriage so I marked my leaders at each end so I know just how far I can go on either end. Then I measured from those 2 marks to see how wide a quilt I can place on the leaders. I also have robotics attached on the right side of the carriage so that also took some space but I can get 113 inch quilt pinned to my leaders.