I work in a quilt shop & she has used the big one for years on her quilting machines & I have used the little one for my pins even before I started at the quilt shop, plus at WalMart for about $5 they have a little pop up trash can that works great from taking to classes, set & sews I have been married to a man with nuts & bolts for 46 years so we have traded a lot of things like this, but I got more of his then he did of mine