The 185 is a very heavy machine. It's about the same size as a FW. It's the one my grands sew on, they can't mess it up or move it. I paid $20 for it in excellent condition at a yard sale. It will probably out last any machine I have. I have a FW too and I use it mostly as a backup machine to take to retreats, classes, and workshops. It's been more then a few times I am so glad I have it with me. I think the 185 is better quality then the FW. I would buy both no question.