Thank you for all the input. I did have a short arm machine with a 10 ft frame so I am familiar with stand up quilting. My setup was recently damaged/crushed when we had a mishap with a broken water pipe in my upstairs bathroom and the ceiling below came crashing down and totally crushed the frame and machine. I have been looking at used setups, but hubby insist I get a new setup. There are no dealers in my area. I found Sewing Machines Plus and I am interested in the KingQuilter with a 12' frame. I just have not found any reviews of this machine. I am on a beer budget....