I just ordered a Voyager 17 with a Hinterberg frame today. I cannot wait to get it! My husband finally gave up all protests to putting it in the front living room. I was pretty persistent that we really didn't use that space and I might as well be using it for something I really want to do. So, now he's talking about adding on a sewing room in a couple of years. Which is just fine with me as long as I don't have to wait until then to get a longarm!!! I'll post pics on the process of setting it up.