Good stuff here, but to me the Juki is pretty much the 201 with a needle down function the 201 has a top loading bobbin which I prefer to the underside bobbin I have a 301 that has that underside bobbin which is ok, but . Well I think I have my answer and thank you all for your help. I don't think I'm going to be happy with any modern sewing machine really, but plan to try a few at the next quilt show I go to. I may just try to lean FMQ and that would solve the problem of getting a machine with more stitches as I only do cross hatch on my quilts now with the 201.