I'm talking about the ones in books and maazines. I was buying a printer scanner every 6 months.......So finially bought the cheapest printer I could find 30 dollars works great....except i have to go some where to copy things. In paper piecing sometimes you have to make a pile of pieces. I'm no good at it anyway. I would rather applique....I.quite like that. This is a great one to applique :D :D :D :wink: