I think I will buy my next machine from Amazon. They have some great prices and free shipping on most if over $249. I just ask someone who has the machine if they like it or not and if they would buy it again. If it comes with a manual, that is all I need -- I cannot remember all those points they tell me about because they are buy-me points. If someone is too gunho about selling me a machine, I wonder if it is really that great.