Well, now I know more I didn't know I didn't know! :lol: I didn't know those long arm machines would work on their own! I thought you had to make the designs by moving the machine yourself. I couldn't imagine how someone could make those beautiful designs so even by hand. But it sounds like--from reading the postings--that some are done that way. Can the long arms work either way or does it depend on the machine? So much I still don't know!