You know, when I first started quiltin (by hand) the only machine quilting I saw was just a very simple side to side all over the same. I didn't like that. I have always hand quilted and until just lately hand pieced. But after seeing all the beautiful free motion quilts you girls and gents have done, I just drool over them. They are real works of art. at the same time, I would not want to be judged in the same group with them. Not that I have ever entered a quilt contest. If perfection were my goal, I would never get there. Of all the quilts I have made, I have yet to make one that was. But my family and friends love them, that's all that matters. I really don't want a long arm. Only because I would never understand the technology. I am technically challanged. I just love to hand quilt.