this is interesting question because it made me reflect on pattern using experiences and I think one reason I don't usually use a pattern (I do EQ8 and sometimes will use some modified ones from magazines)is that the experience has been so varied in quality. I went to a "distanced" class to work on Judy Niemeyer patterns this past week and was working on my first JN pattern--that I started in a class in 2017! Her directions are so detailed--but I'm a "give me a picture" sewer so it really helped to have someone walk me through it--twice. LOL