One by one, Thanks so much for this lede on Gutermann Mara 120 thread from Wawak. It has really saves me some money as I like use dense quilting and thread painting. I also tried Mara150 and this seems to be similar to 60wt. Good for bobbins when thread painting. I just ordered the Mara 220, very fine thread to experiment with. I’ll let you all know how it goes.