i took a class in EPP a couple years ago. Even though I had been doing it for years mine just never seemed real happy with my results. And the instructor's work was absolutely gorgeous!!! So she's going around the class meeting people and she asks me why I took the class. Because I need to learn what she does so I can do better. I can not say enough how wonderful her work was. I was not able to replicate her knot - the lady sitting next to me tried to help, but it just didn't take. Still not up to the instructor's ability - but will keep working on it. There was a lot to learn that day even though I knew the basics.