I haven't had a dishwasher since 1988. And I've never wanted one again. Washing dishes by hand is almost meditative for me, like Endora. And I do get on my hands and knees and clean, sometimes. But I have knee pads I bought from Home Depot that I use when I do. I bought the knee pads when a friend of mind was doing work at my house. He had some but they were very worn so I bought him a new pair and one for me!