@mkc So ... if the frames are gold and they say they are titanium, then they are just coated? Or could the frame itself be titanium with the gold coating? When I think of titanium frames, I think of grey/silver in colour, not gold. This is all one reason I hate having to get new frames. Thanks for helping me to understand more about it all. Time is a bit on my side, as I am not due for updates until this fall/winter.