I bought a Judy Neidermeyer wall hanging size kit and took the class to make it. I did it her way in class but finished the quilt the old fashion Carol Doak way at home. Her way made no sense to me at all, wasted too much time. Her patterns can be made using the basic paper piecing way. I bought a few extra fat quarters to finish in case I used more, but didn't need much. I have lots of Connecting Threads kits bought over the years and so far everyone has much more fabric than I need. I haven't bought one since the company was sold so don't know the kits are now. My last kit was a Kaffe Fasset kit from Missouri Star and I had lots of leftover fabric.