Thank you PatriceJ - I'm thrilled that you're so enthused - I love your your comments - Worked for 28 years, came home and closed the front door, so in the habit of staying home a lot and don't belong to any workgroups, though I do have a few friends into the same crafts but keep my exploits hidden so it has been quite an experience to share with you and all the other ladies - hard to reply to everyone, but I do appreciate all replies - thank you to anyone who feels left out - thank God for computers and the internet - it certainly opened up the world for a lot of people :lol: :thumbup: