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Thread: I'm going crazy!

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    Sounds like Washington state laws for driving! Thankfully the laws changed after I got my license, which I got 10 years ago at the age of 16, so the drive class which was required was only $200 (offered after school at the high school) and then I could go get my license and drive all i wanted. Now...you have to take a class to get your license if you are under the age of 18. The class cost averages about $600, not offered at most schools. You have to clock in something like 50-80 hours of driving time with your parents. Then you can go take the written (which you pay for), then you can take the drive test (which you pay for) if you pass the written test. Then if you pass both test you can get your license (which you pay for). Then the driver is on a special license for six months. During this time they can not drive with anyone else in the car with them unless it is a parent, or a sibling. No friends allowed. After the six month period then they are allowed to drive freely.

    I would have been a sitting duck if I had to pay $600 for a drive class!! Heck that is almost as much as I paid for my first car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonpi
    Quote Originally Posted by tlrnhi
    Courtney doesn't know how to ride a moped. She doesn't know how to ride a bike either. !
    Well, I am glad to find I am not the only one who never learned to ride a bike. It does sound like a reasonable alternative. Can you get training wheels for mopeds? It would seem like learning to drive a car would be easier if you already know the gas/brake/steering stuff from other means of transport.

    Just curious - can she get a Military drivers license as a dependent?
    No, Mopeds don't come with training wheels. Already asked. lol

    Military Drivers licenses are actually just a piece of paper that says you can drive a military vehicle. They don't really issue them anymore. Plus, they are ONLY for Active Duty Military. And...you need a civilian license to go with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tink's Mom
    Terri, Can Courtney get longer hours??? That way it won't be quite so bad...
    I wouldn't bother with the license...Wouldn't give the crooks a penny extra. She can get her license when you get to your next base.

    By the way, squishy is in the mail!!!
    No, she can't change her hours. It's the way the store is operated. It is run by the Seventh Day Adventists and runs by their "church calendar". Courtney works the short hours on T-W-TH because one of the ladies has to go somewhere, do something.
    SQUISHY? WOOHOO!

    Leona, that's pretty much the way the laws are in Hawaii. I don't mind them doing that, but to make them drive for almost a year WITH someone? REDICULOUS!!!!

    I don't have MY moped anymore. I sold it when we got here. :(

    It's not really the money aspect that P's me off. It's the TIME that it takes from start to finish. I can understand for maybe 30 days that they cannot drive alone after "first" license, but come on....A first time driver at the age of 30 has to go thru the SAME thing? It just DOES NOT make sense!
    If we were in Japan, she could have her license in 30 days and it would be an International License and could swap it to a stateside one when returning. UGH!!

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    They do seem to have a different set of rules there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlehud
    They do seem to have a different set of rules there.
    Yep, and once they rules go into effect, then they turn around and make new ones.

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    Terri...I have a great idea.....put Courtney in one of those large flat rate boxes and send her here to me in TN. They issue a license here for almost nothing (I think)... There is a very short time that they have to log with a licensed driver (but around our po-dunk town, no one does that)..then she would be good to go. They offer "hardship" licenses in our county for 14 yr. olds. I saw a kid on the road today...I swear..he was 8. :roll:

    I'll send her back when we have her all legal. :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandpat
    Terri...I have a great idea.....put Courtney in one of those large flat rate boxes and send her here to me in TN. They issue a license here for almost nothing (I think)... There is a very short time that they have to log with a licensed driver (but around our po-dunk town, no one does that)..then she would be good to go. They offer "hardship" licenses in our county for 14 yr. olds. I saw a kid on the road today...I swear..he was 8. :roll:

    I'll send her back when we have her all legal. :lol:
    Ok, I'll pack her up, but you have to KEEP her! lol

    We even told her that we would send her back to KS to get her license. Granddad would help her and maybe even buy her a car! lol

    But, that still wouldn't work, she'd have to quit her job. :(

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    At my school, they offer Driver's Ed. Our Technology teacher take 2 or 3 more students because it is a 5 Passenger car. They drive to a town about 10 miles away. Go to Dunkin Donuts sometimes. They get their Permit. Wait 6 MONTHS. Go to the DMV Take the test get your license. (I think thats the order........)Lol. When my Dad took his her got his Permit. Took the Test, signed up for the real test took it about a week later and got his license. Simple as pie in the old days right?

    Now my friends are saying that here in New York, they are going to extend the time of getting your license to 21 instead of after getting your permit and waiting the 6 months, and then taking the test. It's crazy!! Lol. :)

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    When I went for my license, we had Drivers Ed at school. Every Wed night for 6 weeks. Class was 2 or 3 hours.
    Then we went and got our permit. After 30 days, we could then go and get our license. Easy peasy! But, that was back in the olden days

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    What madness!!

    Teach her to ride a bike -- NOW -- it would be cheaper and easier than the moped. And think of the tan she could get, the exercise, no gas expense, etc. :roll: :roll:

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    We just went thru the same exact thing with Kyle when we moved to Ohio. I was shocked that here there is no drivers ed at school!! Driving school was 350.-- and then all those other fees just like you posted. It about drove me nuts. I thought he would never get done. Here they also have to pass a manuverability test that is really hard!

    When we lived in Illinois they just took drivers ed during school and if they passed the final test with the teacher they didnt have to take the test at the state drivers license place. They just went and got their license!

    I was so glad Kenny got his in Illinois right before we moved. All he had to do was take the written ohio test and got an ohio license

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    We have a graduated licensing system here. They pay 40.00 to write the test to get their permit in order for them to learn to drive. They have to have a G licensed driver with them, and they can't drive after dusk. Unless you have a daughter like mine who I took to write her test and there was an ex boyfriend writing his test as well, in an attempt to show off she rushed through the test and FAILED!!! But she could re-write the next morning for a fee of 10.00. Of course Mum coughed up the money after listening to her wailing about how she was too stupid to have a license. (I held back giving her a smack!)

    Then it cost Mum 685.00 for drivers education and another 65.00 for the road test to get their G2 license, which they can drive alone, but cannot drive on major highways, and cannot have more passengers then there are seat belts for and any hint of alcohol is automatic suspension of their driving privileges.

    The G2 license is only good for 4 years, at some point they must drive out of town to take the test to graduate to a full G license. (but they aren't allowed to drive on major highways!) And of course there is a fee for this test as well. By the time it was all done I was broke!!!








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    It used to be quite easy to get your license here, but now our rules are similar to yours Terri, only even worse. After they actually get their drivers license, they can't drive alone for two years i think...have to have another licensed driver with them, and i think theres curfews too, and cant have friends in the car. I think someone is raking in the money on all this for sure. Sounds like she really needs to wait til you get back to the US, that'll be in just a few months isnt it? Sure hope so, i bet you're getting anxious

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    Quote Originally Posted by sewjoyce
    What madness!!

    Teach her to ride a bike -- NOW -- it would be cheaper and easier than the moped. And think of the tan she could get, the exercise, no gas expense, etc. :roll: :roll:
    That wouldn't be bad if it weren't 15 miles to her work. She could do it, but there are 3 really, REALLY big hills she has to go up. I wouldn't even bike them!

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb M
    It used to be quite easy to get your license here, but now our rules are similar to yours Terri, only even worse. After they actually get their drivers license, they can't drive alone for two years i think...have to have another licensed driver with them, and i think theres curfews too, and cant have friends in the car. I think someone is raking in the money on all this for sure. Sounds like she really needs to wait til you get back to the US, that'll be in just a few months isnt it? Sure hope so, i bet you're getting anxious
    Barb, I wish it were that close, but we've got another year. ARGH!!!

    Kay, I wish it were that easy!
    I don't mind paying for the driving school, but to have to wait for so long AFTER getting the permit AND the "first" license to drive alone, to me is rediculous!! The lady at the driving school said that it doesn't matter how old the first time driver is...they ALL have to adhere to what DMV rules.

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    Terri, I think you need to get back to the US immediately!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachlady
    Terri, I think you need to get back to the US immediately!!!
    I'm thinking the same thing, but the Navy says no. Well, no for hubby to go back immediately. I'm won't leave him here alone. Where he goes, I go. None of this...I stay put and you go to a different duty station.

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    I don't blame you for that Terri! Now, leaving Bill would be maddness!!

    Just go ahead and send Courtney...we'll keep her. :lol: She can always get a job around here somewhere. :D If I was her...I'd think the Grandpa buying me a car deal would sound pretty good!...

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    Oh yes, the buying the car is a good deal, but where they live in KS, there is NOTHING and I do mean NOTHING!
    Oh, they do have Walmart! lol

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    Walmart has good benefits, works around a school schedule, AND it's in America..........isn't that draw enough for her? :shock: Besides if it''s that small she can't get in to much trouble with a car learning to drive, can she?

    See, Terri, it's time for y'all to come home. Bill can talk to the man, can't he?????? :wink:

    Hugs for the frustration, I know it bad there!
    Sharon

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    I'd love it if Bill could talk to the man. But, the man HAS to listen! lol

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    Terri-All I can offer you is a sympathetic ear and a shared frustration. Sounds so familiar with what we went through with our youngest daughter in Germany and then PA. Good luck!!

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    Thanks all for letting me vent. It's just a pain in the butt living here.
    Hubby has decided tho, that we should at least TRY to get her a license before we leave. I called DMV and talked to 3 different people and they said that once she has the DEFINITE PERMANENT license, then yes, that could be transferred over to a stateside license. It's just the interim license that cannot be transferred.
    I had to make 3 different phone calls and I was lucky to get 3 different people.
    So.....hopefully, we CAN get her a license before we leave, but we are also going to look into the moped too.

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