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Thread: Not all thieves are stupid. - A warning

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    Not all thieves are stupid. - A warning

    Got this in an email this morning--

    This gives us something to think about with all our new electronic technology.
    GPS
    A couple of weeks ago a friend told me that someone she knew had their car broken into while they were at a football game. Their car was parked on the green which was adjacent to the football stadium and specially allotted to football fans. Things stolen from the car included a garage door remote control, some money and a GPS which had been prominently mounted on the dashboard.

    When the victims got home, they found that their house had been ransacked and just about everything worth anything had been stolen. The thieves had used the GPS to guide them to the house. They then used the garage remote control to open the garage door and gain entry to the house. The thieves knew the owners were at the football game, they knew what time the game was scheduled to finish and so they knew how much time they had to clean out the house. It would appear that they had brought a truck to empty the house of its contents.

    Something to consider if you have a GPS - don't put your home address in it.. Put a nearby address (like a store or gas station) so you can still find your way home if you need to, but no one else would know where you live if your GPS were stolen.


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    I never thought of this.......

    This lady has now changed her habit of how she lists her names on her mobile phone after her handbag was stolen. Her handbag, which contained her cell phone, credit card, wallet... Etc...was stolen.

    20 minutes later when she called her hubby, from a pay phone telling him what had happened, hubby says 'I received your text asking about our Pin number and I've replied a little while ago.' When they rushed down to the bank, the bank staff told them all the money was already withdrawn. The thief had actually used the stolen cell phone to text 'hubby' in the contact list and got hold of the pin number. Within 20 minutes he had withdrawn all the money from their bank account.


    Moral of the lesson:
    Do not disclose the relationship between you and the people in your contact list.

    Avoid using names like Home, Honey, Hubby, Sweetheart, Dad, Mom, etc....

    And very importantly, when sensitive info is being asked through texts, CONFIRM by calling back.

    Also, when you're being texted by friends or family to meet them somewhere, be sure to call back to confirm that the message came from them. If you don't reach them, be very careful about going places to meet 'family and friends' who text you..

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    Thank you for this important information. Clever bad guys

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    Wow, great tips and very sad for the victim this happened to.
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    thanks for the warning. the convenience of electronics can definitely work against you.
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    Thanks for the warning. I will share the info.

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    I am a little suspicious of the part where the bad guys withdrew "all" their money from the bank account... Every bank account I've ever had access to, both personal and (as a bookkeeper) business, has a $300 daily limit.

    But the advice is good. My husband is listed by his name in my cell phone, I do not leave my GPS in my car, and my home address is not "home", it's simply another address.

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    thanks for sharing
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    You can't be too careful. I had my debit card number stolen and I'm still wondering how. They say the Internet it can be done easily, so please be careful.

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    I think I would have called the police. Especially if I saw a truck with people moving things out and none of the people were the ones that owned the house. Even more so if I never saw a For Sale sign. I'm sure someone in the neighborhood talked to those neighbors.

    I got a check for $5,000.00 in the mail a few years ago that asked me to cash the check and keep $1,000.00. I checked the bank, the signature name, address, etc. There was a bank by that name at that address and the signature on the check was from the President of the bank. I immediately called the bank and the law in Texas. They asked me to send the check to them, but void it first. Nope, not doing that. So I told them until I knew for sure what to do I'll just send a copy and keep the original until needed. Long story short, there was a ring of people living in a motel there sending out checks from various banks, they did catch them and I did send the original check and the thugs are serving time as we speak.

    Sick people out there. Had I been stupid enough to cash that check I would have had to cover the entire $5,000.00!

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    Your insurance card has your address on it, is easier to grab than the GPS is to turn on, and is required to be in the vehicle.
    and as for giving pin numbers... my pin number is not the same as hubbies pin number... and if he sent me a text message asking me for his pin number I think I would be calling him back to check if he had whacked his head or something.
    I will still have family members listed as who/what they are because if something happens to me instead of meaningless names, EMT's or whoever will have ICE/hubby, and MOM to call.

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    Great tips..thank you for sharing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peckish View Post
    I am a little suspicious of the part where the bad guys withdrew "all" their money from the bank account... Every bank account I've ever had access to, both personal and (as a bookkeeper) business, has a $300 daily limit.

    But the advice is good. My husband is listed by his name in my cell phone, I do not leave my GPS in my car, and my home address is not "home", it's simply another address.
    I use a debit card for purchases but the first time I used it at the ATM to save time Well I messed up I only wanted $100 and got $1000 -I no longer have that kind of money-so I had to go in and return the excess and the teller said the only limit is whats left in the ATM machine and the customer has to set up a daily limit for ATM withdrawals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitchit123 View Post
    I use a debit card for purchases but the first time I used it at the ATM to save time Well I messed up I only wanted $100 and got $1000 -I no longer have that kind of money-so I had to go in and return the excess and the teller said the only limit is whats left in the ATM machine and the customer has to set up a daily limit for ATM withdrawals
    How bizarre. It is exactly the opposite in my area of the country. If you want to withdraw more than $300, you have to go into the branch and arrange it with the bank/credit union, which then makes using the ATM pretty much useless. Might as well just make a withdrawal right there at the counter.

    My insurance card does not have my home address printed on it, but my registration from the DMV does, and that HAS been stolen from my vehicle. It's also required by law to be in my vehicle, so I'm not sure how you get around that, unless you hide it somewhere good (and thereby make the police officer who pulled you over verrrry nervous when he asks for your registration).

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    I think my bank has a $300 daily limit for ATM by default - and that includes debit with pin # --- I had to call them and have that changed, since everything over a weekend technically posts to the following business day $300 isn't much on a long weekend - I can spend more than that in 1 grocery shopping trip! The daily limit on debit as credit card was $1000 I think too... I did notice the ATM itself has a $500/transaction limit now. I think that's more to keep you from emptying the machine than anything. But, the bank sets the policy.

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    Oh, I was talking about cash withdrawals, not point-of-sale transactions. Point-of-sale can go as high as you want. However, you can only withdraw $300 CASH maximum per day. So, if someone were to steal your card and get your pin, the most they could withdraw from your account would be $300 per day. However, if they were able to successfully use your debit card to make purchases, then the amount is unlimited (or limited to what's in the account).

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    Great info!!!

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    My bank doesn't group it to cash/purchase - they lump it in pin/non-pin. So ATM and pin purchases both come out of the same limit - so a $300 limit would include the $40 I took out of the ATM and the $200 I spent on groceries. Silly banks


    Quote Originally Posted by Peckish View Post
    Oh, I was talking about cash withdrawals, not point-of-sale transactions. Point-of-sale can go as high as you want. However, you can only withdraw $300 CASH maximum per day. So, if someone were to steal your card and get your pin, the most they could withdraw from your account would be $300 per day. However, if they were able to successfully use your debit card to make purchases, then the amount is unlimited (or limited to what's in the account).

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    Quote Originally Posted by shnnn View Post
    My bank doesn't group it to cash/purchase - they lump it in pin/non-pin. So ATM and pin purchases both come out of the same limit - so a $300 limit would include the $40 I took out of the ATM and the $200 I spent on groceries. Silly banks
    Okay now THAT would get me to change banks. lol

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    Oh my goodness.... I never thought of any of these sneaky idea. I guess I wouldn't make a very good thief.

    But seriously, many thanks for the tips. I'm going to post on my facebook.
    Karen

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    My sister's car was stolen while she was at work. Using her address from her registration, they drove the car to her home, opened the garage door, drove in, closed the garage door, and then stole whatever they wanted from her home. Opened the garage door, and drove away. When she called the police from work, they told her NOT to go into her house until the police met her there. Seems this is not uncommon.

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    DH always keeps the registration in his wallet. I think we will put the insurance paper in there too.

    No GPS, no garage, no garage door, no garage door opener - sometimes it pays to be poor!!

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    Thanks to you and the story, we are now educated. I will be passing this on.
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    This is a continuing trend. They prey on people in their time of need. If anything sound too good to be true it usually is. Be careful as far as limits on bank atm's, you can increase your daily limit at the bank,but do so with caution.
    Ilma

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    They could also get you address from your vehicle registration, which most people keep in the glove box.

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