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ptquilts 08-09-2015 04:59 AM

Doesn't anyone use proofreaders anymore?
 
Headline on Yahoo home page

"Trump sews new conflict."

Who knew, he is one of us. I think they meant "sows" however. They should be embarrassed.

Tartan 08-09-2015 05:09 AM

:D ​the old auto correct strikes again and no one bothered to re-read it before printing.

nativetexan 08-09-2015 07:15 AM

yep, you gotta love idiots! sorry, Yes, you have to love idiots!

thimblebug6000 08-09-2015 07:22 AM

ptquilts, every time I read the newspaper I feel like taking a red felt pen and circling all the grammar errors and typos.... nice to know I'm not the only one. :D and I figured out how to shut off the auto correct on my ipad, it was just too annoying. Sometimes when I type I make a mistake and I'm okay with that; but for the machine to be telling me what I must be trying to say was a little too much.

ManiacQuilter2 08-09-2015 07:35 AM

Funny, I doubt if he even know how to thread a sewing machine.

tessagin 08-09-2015 07:48 AM

I ordered business cards. My last name only has 4 letters. I sent the cards back twice; I proofread twice. I know how to spell my last name. They got upset because I wouldn't accept an "s" at the end of my name. Went to another place and got a better deal and no hassle.
I too half to laugh when the local newspaper holds spelling bees and send the kids to nationals. I sent a letter to the paper and told them they really needed to have these kids proofread the newspaper. Obviously, their employees never were in a spelling bee or even had an inclination what it was. the least they could do was use autocorrect.

quiltin-nannie 08-09-2015 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by tessagin (Post 7281453)
I ordered business cards. My last name only has 4 letters. I sent the cards back twice; I proofread twice. I know how to spell my last name. They got upset because I wouldn't accept an "s" at the end of my name. Went to another place and got a better deal and no hassle.
I too half to laugh when the local newspaper holds spelling bees and send the kids to nationals. I sent a letter to the paper and told them they really needed to have these kids proofread the newspaper. Obviously, their employees never were in a spelling bee or even had an inclination what it was. the least they could do was use autocorrect.


LOL! "Half to laugh"? Or "have" to laugh?

Chasing Hawk 08-09-2015 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by ManiacQuilter2 (Post 7281441)
Funny, I doubt if he even know how to thread a sewing machine.

Sure he does...he just yells at it and the machine threads itself. :)

OR

is that Chuck Norris who does that? :)

Onebyone 08-09-2015 02:50 PM

I prefer typos to bad formatting. I doubt no one under 30 knows how to indent or why or when.

M.Elizabeth 08-09-2015 03:40 PM

One of the grammatical errors that drives me crazy is the misuse of "brought". Ex: I brought my sewing machine to the shop. It should be "I took my machine to the shop." I, too, spot all the errors in the paper; even the large type headlines are not exempt. I did teach language arts for a hundred years and do know the rules!!!

jitkaau 08-10-2015 03:54 AM

I think they rely too much on spell checkers without taking into account that correct spelling does not always equal correct grammar or lexical choice. I've seen a few good ones as well. Although sometimes it can be because the data import person has misheard the boss's dictation. One which I saw in a high - end catalogue was the phrase, "cups and sauces".

Jingle 08-10-2015 05:11 AM

What really gets me and my Daughter is misspelled words on outdoor signs. They really stand out.

carolynjo 08-10-2015 05:14 AM

The typos in our paper drive me crazy as an English teacher for more years than I care to remember. Part of the problem is that the writers depend on auto -correct rather than looking up words. Homonyms seem to give writers the worst time, and it is in AP articles as well as in our local papers. Perhaps they need to read more!

carolynjo 08-10-2015 05:16 AM

Another pet peeve of mine is the misuse of certain phrases: case in point: If I would have known, etc., rather than had I known. Oh, well, I guess it's a losing battle.

JoantheQuilter 08-10-2015 05:25 AM

Grammar
 

Originally Posted by ptquilts (Post 7281248)
Headline on Yahoo home page

"Trump sews new conflict."

Who knew, he is one of us. I think they meant "sows" however. They should be embarrassed.

I am so happy to see that I am not the only one bothered by incorrect spelling or misuse of words. My pet peeve is "your" in place of "you're" or the bothersome "they're, their, there". Don't they teach this in school anymore? Our newspaper is notorious for using incorrect grammar and incorrect spelling. My husband says he is going to apply for a job as proofreader for our local paper. They could not afford him, I'm sure! ;-))

katybob 08-10-2015 05:31 AM

My pet peeve is the use of the apostrophe. "It's" means "it is". It doesn't mean anything else. There is no apostrophe in "its" when used in the possessive case.

purplefiend 08-10-2015 05:53 AM

I'm really tired of the overuse of the words: literally,virtually and sense. The other one is the mispronunciation of the planet Uranus.

quiltsRfun 08-10-2015 05:58 AM

Misuse of pronouns drives me crazy. Example: The gift was for Joe and I. The simple test is to take out the other person. You wouldn't say the gift was for I.

Another pet peeve is the use of an apostrophe for a plural. Banana's = something belongs to the banana. Bananas = more than one banana.

katybob 08-10-2015 06:11 AM

Oh, me, too, quiltsRfun! I forgot about that one.

maviskw 08-10-2015 06:38 AM

Love this thread! But are we preaching to the choir? The one we see here is boarder for border. One person posted that she should get all those boarders to help her with her borders. Did she get it? Doubt it.
I don't think the teachers even know this stuff anymore.
My pet peeve is the I or me thing. quiltsRfun has the right explanation. It is used incorrectly by a lot of paper editors.
I always read what I have written before I click on "Post", but sometimes things sneak through anyhow. (not anyways, LOL)

ladydukes 08-10-2015 06:39 AM

I grew up when spelling was taught in school as well as grammar, word tense, diction, penmanship, etc. Whatever happened to it? Spelling and grammar mistakes in newspapers, magazines as well as books or other printed media just blow me away. In this day and age of computers, finding the correct spelling or word usage is extremely easy to find!

linkd 08-10-2015 07:32 AM

I worry that with all of the focus on the STEM (science, technology, engineering, math) subjects that liberal arts will be ignored and forgotten. I was an English major in college, and managed to support myself and my family with no trouble. I worry that that may not be possible for today's kids. I think that we will all lead poorer lives if only people with STEM backgrounds can hold well paying jobs.

JanieH 08-10-2015 07:49 AM

I agree with all the examples given. Shall we add "who" and "whom" to our list?

Many ebooks seem to be full of poor grammar and spelling. They drive me crazy when I am reading the story.

Wanabee Quiltin 08-10-2015 07:58 AM

I read a blog each evening and it is so full of errors I want to email her and tell her to proofread. But she is so sweet, I can't bear to do it. One word that bothers me is the use of the word "lots". My English teacher told us that it meant a plot of land.

ShirlinAZ 08-10-2015 07:58 AM

I also tend to be grammar police. I spot all the errors, both spelling and grammatical, here on the board. I decided to ignore them since not everyone had teachers as critical as mine. When I was working as a secretary for the government my wages were half as much as my counterparts were paid in D.C. It really irritated me to read letters from congressmen that were full of errors, sometimes to the point that they made no sense. I thought those secretaries and typists were paid way too much to send out letters that made their bosses look so stupid. As I got older I realized that neither intelligence nor education were prerequisites for being voted into office!

cathyvv 08-10-2015 08:26 AM

I looked up the definition of 'brought' because I use the word as it is used in your example sentence. Per the definition, 'brought' is used correctly in the example sentence.

One of the definitions of brought: to carry, convey, or take (something or someone) to a designated place or person

However, there were 8 other definitions on the site I used to look it up.
:shock:





cathyvv 08-10-2015 08:27 AM

There, their and there...

cathyvv 08-10-2015 08:30 AM

I don't think language arts is going out of style. In the STEM fields, you have to be able to write your work/ideas in a manner that others can easily understand.

cathyvv 08-10-2015 08:34 AM

Never thought about the word 'lots' like that. Looked it up - as an adverb, lots means: a great deal. There are several not plot definitions for 'lots', too.

English is so confusing!

cathyvv 08-10-2015 08:38 AM

Their bosses wrote them. I think they might be the real problem.

katybob 08-10-2015 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by cathyvv (Post 7282477)
There, their and there...

Cathy, did you mean "there, their and they're"?

PAMAR 08-10-2015 09:59 AM

Do they still teach diagramming of sentences in school? I still diagram in my head. I had a teacher who used to make it into a game - girls vs. boys. Guess that wouldn't fly nowadays.

caspharm 08-10-2015 10:02 AM

It has become so commonplace for people to spell check, but they do not check grammar. Therefore, the system the person is using may not catch the wrong word, because it is the "wright" word (spelled correctly, wrong usage) and since the system didn't flag it, the person's brain (if they are proofreading it) accepts it as the right word.

We have gotten lazy in teaching proper grammar and word usage. Sometimes, the wrong word will slip through, when texting a message or writing anything on a computer, because of spell check apps that are not grammar apps and a person hitting send without really reading what they typed.

quiltsRfun 08-10-2015 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by PAMAR (Post 7282582)
Do they still teach diagramming of sentences in school? I still diagram in my head. I had a teacher who used to make it into a game - girls vs. boys. Guess that wouldn't fly nowadays.

I've often wondered the same thing. It's one of those things you wonder if you'll ever use when you're young but realize how important it is when you're older.

ptquilts 08-10-2015 12:29 PM

I still have trouble with who and whom. Got bring and take down pretty well, although I don't think about it much.

"Should I take the car in to the mechanic's?"

"Yes, he said 'Bring it in today.'"

sassysews2 08-10-2015 02:00 PM

My youngest son has five (5) Masters Degrees and he can't spell (as my mother would have said) sh** without adding 2 t's. lol

duckydo 08-10-2015 04:35 PM

Well one of my pet peeves is the overuse of the words amazing and awesome. I think there is lack of vocabulary. Just throwing in my two cents.

matraina 08-10-2015 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by thimblebug6000 (Post 7281429)
ptquilts, every time I read the newspaper I feel like taking a red felt pen and circling all the grammar errors and typos.... nice to know I'm not the only one. :D and I figured out how to shut off the auto correct on my ipad, it was just too annoying. Sometimes when I type I make a mistake and I'm okay with that; but for the machine to be telling me what I must be trying to say was a little too much.

Oh, I so agree with you. When I read the newspaper, the church bulletin, meeting minutes, etc., I keep wondering who, if anyone, proofread it. It bugs me, especially when a baseball announcer says "The score is tied 0 to 0." If it's 0 to 0, there is no score.

Seaside gal 08-10-2015 06:31 PM

advice, advise
me, myself, I
border, boarder

sparkys_mom 08-10-2015 06:39 PM

I suppose we all have our pet peeves. I hate seeing people use 'loose' when they mean 'lose'. Someone already mentioned the boarder vs border. I have a friend who constantly uses 'mute' when she really means 'moot'. I really have to bite my tongue not to correct her. The one that really drives me nuts, though, are emails that read along the lines of "How r u?" I understand text messages were once charged differently, but I think most have unlimited text and my phone provides auto-fill. I always feel like just deleting those messages with no response.

After saying all that, I recognize that I'm not the world's leading expert on spelling or grammar but it seems to me that some people don't even try. :(


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