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Endora 07-02-2017 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by quiltingshorttimer (Post 7856263)
yes to this!

Add me to the list, too! Voice messages are so irritating and impersonal.

popover 07-02-2017 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Endora (Post 7854132)
Regardless of whether or not spanking was universally accepted, or whether it worked or not, kids (from my generation) had more respect for people and things, compared to today's generation. Society, as far as behaviour and respect is concerned, has lost a lot of ground over the past 20-30 years.

Society is rapidly devolving into anarchy. Just watch the news.

Endora 07-02-2017 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by popover (Post 7856277)
Society is rapidly devolving into anarchy. Just watch the news.

Bingo! 100% right you are, Popover. Sometimes it scares me just to think where society is going, and how rapidly.

madamekelly 07-02-2017 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by zoeytoo (Post 4495418)
Funny how people think they can only afford a boy and a girl now, but then people afforded 13 children.

And could afford to put a roof over, and feed them.....

lynnie 07-02-2017 05:01 PM

that rentals were cheaper so my son could get a decent apartment

romanojg 07-03-2017 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Conartist1945 (Post 4489611)
A real person on the other line rather than a recording

A real person and one that spoke the same language that you did.

romanojg 07-03-2017 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by CloverPatch (Post 4490158)
before 9 after 9, really doesn't matter. Im tired of seeing condom commercials. So much so I don't even watch TV anymore.

I hate seeing the condom and the Viagra, do you know how hard it is to explain that to a 11 yr old boy. At his age he hasn't even discovered these things about his body and you are trying to explain that one day they might not work right and you have to take a pill. Not all things need to be in commercials, that's what the doctors offices are for.

Endora 07-03-2017 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by romanojg (Post 7856672)
A real person and one that spoke the same language that you did.

One of my biggest pet-peeves! Not impressed when you can't understand someone!

tranum 07-06-2017 04:57 AM

1). A birthday telephone call from grandchildren instead of a #£#¥ text ! I want to hear their voices!
2). A tv that I would plug in and turn on. I don't need a "cable box" and all those connections, but DH does.

madamekelly 07-06-2017 10:35 AM

If I could chose anything from yesterdays, I would chose not to have government in our private lives.

Endora 07-07-2017 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by madamekelly (Post 7858958)
If I could chose anything from yesterdays, I would chose not to have government in our private lives.

Holding my cup of morning coffee up to that!

cathyvv 07-07-2017 09:05 AM

No changes for me. I love my modern conveniences.

Try dialing 911 on a rotary phone! Yuk. Party lines were also known as gossip lines...but phones were used much less in those days so maybe it wasn't so bad.

I would never would want a wringer washer. My Mom had one when we were kids. Call me spoiled, but from observation I could see it was a LOT of work! My brother and cousin - both about 4 - ran their arms through the wringer. No breaks but bruising and sore for awhile. I heard about that scary moment for a long time. And hanging clothes to dry on the line during the winter was HE!!.

My kids, now in their 40's, used cloth diapers because the "paper" diapers were so scented and filled with powder that they got terrible rashes from them.

Faintly Artistic 07-07-2017 09:16 AM

Technology isn't so much the problem...attitude is. Technology can be used appropriately or not, all depends on what choices you make. Respect/consideration for others and self control are severely missing in our culture. Pop culture shouldn't be raising the children, that's the parents' job.

cathyvv 07-07-2017 09:19 AM

The Danny Thomas show had bratty kids that talked back? Not the kids in the TV show! Dr Spock - I 100% agree with no spanking. I used to spank and finally figured out that it wasn't working. My Kids were scared of me, but their behavior did not improve. Plus I hated being spanked as a kid. I changed my approach - spanking was punishment, not discipline. It was amazing to me how teaching them about limits and boundaries and consequences and the reasons for the limits and boundaries taught them self discipline.

I have grands visit in the summer for 4 - 6 weeks and never have to raise my voice to them - except in safety situations where urgency is required. Lots happens in 4 - 6 weeks, so they are disciplined, but quietly, privately and never with corporal punishment.

cathyvv 07-07-2017 09:27 AM

Tell the 11 year old that viagra is for "reptile dysfunction".

Endora 07-07-2017 02:56 PM

Posted by cathyvv

My kids, now in their 40's, used cloth diapers because the "paper" diapers were so scented and filled with powder that they got terrible rashes from them.
Well, Cathy, my youngest was in diapers in 1987, and like his older siblings, he too got cloth diapers and rubber pants. How's that for being old-fashioned! LOL!

Endora 07-07-2017 03:03 PM


The Danny Thomas show had bratty kids that talked back? Not the kids in the TV show! Dr Spock - I 100% agree with no spanking. I used to spank and finally figured out that it wasn't working. My Kids were scared of me, but their behavior did not improve. Plus I hated being spanked as a kid. I changed my approach - spanking was punishment, not discipline. It was amazing to me how teaching them about limits and boundaries and consequences and the reasons for the limits and boundaries taught them self discipline.

I have grands visit in the summer for 4 - 6 weeks and never have to raise my voice to them - except in safety situations where urgency is required. Lots happens in 4 - 6 weeks, so they are disciplined, but quietly, privately and never with corporal punishment.
I always spanked, but spankings in our home when I did it were nothing like the spankings I got when I was growing up. I remember getting a few spankings, too, and hated it.

I spent a lot of time helping my mom with baby siblings when I was growing up, and spanking was the one thing my mom never allowed me to do. If a spanking was due, that was her job, though I do remember spanking when babysitting. Times sure have changed.

Endora 07-07-2017 03:13 PM

Posted by cathyvv

My kids, now in their 40's, used cloth diapers because the "paper" diapers were so scented and filled with powder that they got terrible rashes from them.
My kids still got diaper rash with cloth diapers, but rashes were few and far between. Kids got checked and changed more when cloth diapers were used, and I always knew when someone needed changing, because their diapers would droop and sag between their legs, especially double diapers.

Endora 07-07-2017 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by cathyvv (Post 7859485)
tell the 11 year old that viagra is for "reptile dysfunction".

rofl!!!!!!

Endora 07-07-2017 03:34 PM

Cloth diaper users (way back when)... remember running the diaper pins through our hair before pinning a diaper? And how about doubling-up the diapers for absorbency? My kids used to waddle like penguins, because their diapers were so bulky!

cathyvv 07-07-2017 06:24 PM

And, like my kids, he lived through it. They use a lot less/no fragrances in the paper diapers now, so I would be tempted to use them if I was a young mother now.

Endora 07-08-2017 06:49 AM

Me, I'd go with the old again. Always preferred them. Preferred them for fit, for baby's comfort, for economics, the environment, but most of all the convenience of always having diapers on hand when I needed them. Cloth diapers always seemed more like real diapers to me than disposables.

Bobbielinks 07-08-2017 10:07 AM

Clean family tv shows. Neighbors who visit. Kids being able to play outside until dark with no worries of harm.

tranum 07-09-2017 08:49 AM

Yesterday I went to a family bridal shower. I sat with a 26 year old granddaughter who is a wife and mother. If I talked, she answered otherwise she just sat there, but she can Facebook like a pro. ( like her mother ). After a while, I noticed she wasn't around then I found out she left. Didn't even have the manners to say goodby.

Endora 07-09-2017 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by tranum (Post 7860615)
Yesterday I went to a family bridal shower. I sat with a 26 year old granddaughter who is a wife and mother. If I talked, she answered otherwise she just sat there, but she can Facebook like a pro. ( like her mother ). After a while, I noticed she wasn't around then I found out she left. Didn't even have the manners to say goodby.

I believe it. People skills and class have gone down the toilet nowadays. Our world has turned totally animalistic. Not a care about anyone or anything, and everything is disposable.

DDuMouchel 07-11-2017 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by Conartist1945 (Post 4489611)
A real person on the other line rather than a recording

They have this throughout the state of Oregon, by law. I often wonder why they don't do the same thing in other states, it would provide a lot of jobs!

Onebyone 07-11-2017 05:44 AM

I remember how hard it was for my grandmother. Wringer washer may be fun when you were a child but it's drudgery when it had to be used all the time, even in winter. No clothes dryer, clothes had to be hung up and taken down in winter too, clothes had to be ironed, no permanent press fabric. No dishwasher, someone had to wash the mounds of dishes and cooking pans. Mops had to wrung out by hand. Do you know who hard that is to do that twenty or more times per mopping? Older cars were did not have the safety features we have today. Old gas engines that were easy to fix drank gas. We couldn't afford to drive one today. Mom and Pop stores that only sold what they wanted to sell not what you wanted. The things I miss is because I was a child and miss the memories of them. Not the doing of them. My kids say the same thing about missing things from their childhood.

One thing I wish I could bring back is the quality of education that was in the grade schools then.

Endora 07-11-2017 06:49 AM

Anyone else notice how the old days of holding a door open out of courtesy for the next person has all but disappeared? I'm also turned-off as to how me, myself, and I, this world has become. I notice it a lot when shopping, and not just with the younger generation. People parking their shopping carts carelessly (dead centre) in the isle and as you approach, little effort is made to move. Also notice the lack of "excuse me" used when another person walks past an in front of you while you're selecting something from the shelves.

While it amounts to little things, when added up together, they prove to be much bigger in scale, and the filthy language I hear today, and how freely it's used tells me everything I need to know about the direction our world and society is going. Also, whatever happened to offering help to a neighbour or someone in need? Seems those days are gone, too.

plainpat 07-12-2017 03:33 AM

Days when Moms were home raising their family,eating out was unknown,Dad was our repairman,fixing everything including the car.Days when a school principal was likely to stop by your house if any of us got in trouble.When just a look from Dad caused us kids to "fly right & straighten up".

Every "back then" leads to another.....Days of being safe covers it for me.

Boston1954 07-19-2017 06:17 PM

My sister and I rode our bikes all over our town (7 miles long, 10 miles wide). We never dreamed of anyone stopping their car and grabbing us away. Kids disappear all the time now. It makes me glad that I did not bring anyone into this world.

Endora 07-22-2017 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by plainpat (Post 7862333)
Days when Moms were home raising their family,eating out was unknown,Dad was our repairman,fixing everything including the car.Days when a school principal was likely to stop by your house if any of us got in trouble.When just a look from Dad caused us kids to "fly right & straighten up".

Every "back then" leads to another.....Days of being safe covers it for me.

I feel sorry for young children nowadays under the care of daycares. As far as I'm concerned, it's a sub-standard way to raise children, and all the eating out I see today, no wonder young families have no money. Between eating out and buying disposable diapers, I'm surprised young families today can even support a roof over their heads.

Endora 07-22-2017 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by Boston1954 (Post 7867083)
My sister and I rode our bikes all over our town (7 miles long, 10 miles wide). We never dreamed of anyone stopping their car and grabbing us away. Kids disappear all the time now. It makes me glad that I did not bring anyone into this world.

So true. We ran for blocks around (in all directions) as kids, and no one ever bothered us.

I also remember my friends moms were just as apt to give me a spanking when my friends got a spanking, if we were being bad. The good old days.

lynnie 07-22-2017 07:36 AM

when I was a kid, we'd play all day outside and ride our bikes.
no worries about being abducted, we'd talk to strangers. we'd go to the food store and look at all the babies outside. we had no money in our pockets or phones. oh yeah, phones were only a dime call away too.

Endora 07-22-2017 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by lynnie (Post 7868747)
when I was a kid, we'd play all day outside and ride our bikes.
no worries about being abducted, we'd talk to strangers. we'd go to the food store and look at all the babies outside. we had no money in our pockets or phones. oh yeah, phones were only a dime call away too.

I remember seldom were we bored. There was always lots to do. Always something going on. We found play and enjoyment in simple things, unlike today where expense needs to be tied to everything.

bearisgray 07-22-2017 07:51 AM

Bad things still happened "back then" - we probably just weren't that aware of it when we were kids unless it happened in our neighborhood or to someone we knew.

I still find that most people are polite.

I am undecided yet as to whether our "conveniences" are - in the long run - beneficial to us or not.

I definitely enjoy the convenience of having a washer and dryer for doing the laundry as compared to a wringer washer and clotheslines or drying racks.

The downside - it takes longer to do all the laundry with the washer and dryer (on a good drying day) and all that physical exercise has been eliminated.

Physically - are we in better or worse shape than most people were 50 years ago?

Endora 07-22-2017 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by bearisgray (Post 7868760)
Bad things still happened "back then" - we probably just weren't that aware of it when we were kids unless it happened in our neighborhood or to someone we knew.

I still find that most people are polite.

I am undecided yet as to whether our "conveniences" are - in the long run - beneficial to us or not.

I definitely enjoy the convenience of having a washer and dryer for doing the laundry as compared to a wringer washer and clotheslines or drying racks.

The downside - it takes longer to do all the laundry with the washer and dryer (on a good drying day) and all that physical exercise has been eliminated.

Physically - are we in better or worse shape than most people were 50 years ago?

Historically, I think people today are in the worst shape they've ever been in. Chronic obesity is rampant. I even see it in young people. Terrible.

bearisgray 07-22-2017 08:37 AM

Microwave ovens - do we eat more because of them? Is our food actually "safe"? Are there unknown cumulative effects from using them or being around them?

SusieQOH 07-27-2017 05:51 AM

I really don't like microwave ovens. I use my as seldom as possible. I wouldn't even have one if I lived alone.
There are a lot of modern things I really like though. I wouldn't really want things a whole lot different. I think every generation says the same thing about the "good old days" :)
One thing I do miss is letter writing. I used to love to and now I just don't do it. So it's my fault really.


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