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seahorsesanna 10-24-2011 06:47 AM

Amen (or can we not say that in America anymore? is it not pc?) :hunf:

zoeytoo 10-25-2011 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by mrsk

Originally Posted by quilticing
Edited TV commercials, no profanity, violence, nudity especially before 9pm.

Here, Here!!!!
I would even go back to cigarette comercials if they would just bann all the "men's sexual problem" pill commercials, the incontinence adds, and the pills for anything that causes worse side effects than the original pill is supposed to cure!

OH YES!!! And I get so annoyed at the commercials with women who have voices that are winey. This one lady keeps saying "my cvs" like she can sell it. And there is the guy who says his kid tells him"dad, your teeth are bad." and the lady who says "my RA" for rhumatioid arthuritis like she owns it. I liked the old commercials where some sweet person sang a jingle. "Just brush your teeth with colegate, colgate dental cream lalalal"

zoeytoo 10-25-2011 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by kaykwilts

Originally Posted by zoeytoo

Originally Posted by kaykwilts
Forgive me for this....but I would love it if we went back to all immigrants desiring to learn English and wanting to become an American....I get really tired of not being understood by someone who lives here but chooses not to speak English....and the feeling that at 52 I have to learn a new language in order to communicate with most checkers at the grocery store.

I once tried to communicate with a Spanish speaking person in their language after two years learning Spanish in high school. I came away with more appreciation for how difficult speaking a second language is. Most of them work jobs that are physical and raise a family as well on little money. When you are tired you don't feel like tackling another hard task, yet many do learn English. Becoming a literacy volunteer and you would help them. We'd have to walk a mile in their moccasins as the American Indian saying goes, to understand how it is to be an immigrant. Kindness is a universal language...we all understand it.

I appreciate the difficulty inherent in working a physical job (something I HAVE done before...for three years) and in being tired at the end of the day....AND having to learn a new language. BUT I personally know of Spanish speaking people who have been in this country for 30 years and never learned English. (My new DIL's mother is one) From all that I have read and studied, that wasn't the case during the time of the "Great Immigration" of the early 1900's. Back then, if the history books are correct, those coming here sought to find a better life for themselves, AND learned English as a means to achieve that better life. I have worked as a Literacy Volunteer before, and found that because there was NO desire or push for the adults at home to learn English, the children were less interested too...just doing it because they we told they HAD to by the teachers at the school (I worked with the children of the "boat" people from Cambodia, North Vietnam, and Laos).....I feel I have been kind and understanding of how hard many Hispanics work...and the struggles they go through when coming here....BUT when you have been here for 30 years and still can't understand or speak English...to me, that isn't about just being too tired at the end of the day....that is just NOT wanting to become an American.

Sorry if I offended you....that was not my intent.

And I agree, kindness is a universal language....and English should be the official language of the United States.

Oh, you didn't offend me and I agree with your main point about learning the language. I wanted to make an additional comment not contradict yours. My family came from Italy (but I was born here) and the funny thing is my dad made us talk English at home
so I do not know very much Italian except what my maternal gram said and I asked what it meant. I worked with ESL kids who are eager to be just like the American born kids and it is hard because their accents and limited vocabulary makes them different. I once taught a Russian girl 7 years old who spoke and wrote better English than the rest of the USA born kids. Our language has many confusing aspects, especially for Oriental children who have to learn the abc formations as well as the words. Glad I was born here:) Thank God for America every day.

Beth33 10-25-2011 01:09 AM

One of those old phones where you had to put your finger in a hole and make a circle with your hand.

GGquilts 10-25-2011 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by Conartist1945
A real person on the other line rather than a recording

wouldn't that be nice

miriam 10-25-2011 03:41 AM

people still believed God would provide their needs - now they think the government will provide their wants as well as their needs

Momma_K 10-25-2011 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by miriam
people still believed God would provide their needs - now they think the government will provide their wants as well as their needs

I know what you mean. I'm a good old fashioned believer in having faith that God will take care of my needs. I'm praying for a place to move to with two daughters and a grand daughter. The government isn't going to help me without going to public housing, been there, done that. But I do know He will do what I can't do and With God ALL things are possible!! :thumbup:

Krisb 10-25-2011 07:29 AM

[quote=kaykwilts]

Originally Posted by running1
I've often wished for a much slower pace...


This is just so true. We all need to remember that we actively participate in these decisions, and that what we do every day has long term consequences. We want to save a buck on a yard of fabric, and soon all fabric is made in China or India. We want to drive everywhere and park conveniently and at no cost, and soon our downtowns die and everything is a strip mall. And what do we do with the money and time that we have thus saved? Do we use it to make this world a better place? No, we (and I am including myself here) just spend or use it on more stuff. As Wordsworth said well over a hundred years ago,

The world is too much with us; late and soon,
Getting and spending, we lay waste our powers;—
Little we see in Nature that is ours;
We have given our hearts away, a sordid boon!

sarahrachel 10-25-2011 08:29 AM

can I add to this even though I didn't live in "the old days"? But I would love to have people write letters to each other. how I love looking through my grandparents and great grandparents letters to each other that my grandma saved. so romantic! but also I have an old car that's not too automated so my dad can fix most of the things by himself which he's also trying to teach me though I don't know what good it will do me in oh, I don't know, 20 years?

sarahrachel 10-25-2011 08:47 AM

for all of you asking for a clothes line, I love mine. I love sheets hanging out the most but not so much towels. We even hang ours out a little in the winter. I think they freeze more than dry, but my mom says they dry and we put them in the dryer for a few minutes. But this year we're getting a drying rack to put next to the wood stove that's going to go in our kitchen for heat this year. I try to be old fashioned when I can, but with some things, I do keep up (technology for one so I can help my dad understand when the computer doesn't work) but oh, how I would love to have a treadle! all you who have one are so lucky!!

tlcquiltnut 10-25-2011 08:55 AM

Amen to the God providing statement. As for me, hummm, family gatherings that were more than once a year. We would have family picnics often as we were growing up. We actually knew our cousins and aunts and uncles. I cherrish them all and still keep in touch too. But families today don't seem to do that much.

Momma_K 10-25-2011 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by sarahrachel
can I add to this even though I didn't live in "the old days"? But I would love to have people write letters to each other. how I love looking through my grandparents and great grandparents letters to each other that my grandma saved. so romantic! but also I have an old car that's not too automated so my dad can fix most of the things by himself which he's also trying to teach me though I don't know what good it will do me in oh, I don't know, 20 years?

Sarahrachel, you sound like you're a very sweet and humble person. THIS is the kind of people I'd love to meet more of. Unfortunately, todays upbeat world has spoiled a lot of people....thus the longing for the "Good Old Days". And I would like to have a clothes line like Mom had, a long pole with the slit in the middle to hold the line up. A wood stove?! Sounds so nice, I live in a basement apt with One heating and A/C duct, we freeze in the winter and fry in the summer!!

sarahrachel 10-25-2011 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Momma_K

Originally Posted by sarahrachel
can I add to this even though I didn't live in "the old days"? But I would love to have people write letters to each other. how I love looking through my grandparents and great grandparents letters to each other that my grandma saved. so romantic! but also I have an old car that's not too automated so my dad can fix most of the things by himself which he's also trying to teach me though I don't know what good it will do me in oh, I don't know, 20 years?

Sarahrachel, you sound like you're a very sweet and humble person. THIS is the kind of people I'd love to meet more of. Unfortunately, todays upbeat world has spoiled a lot of people....thus the longing for the "Good Old Days". And I would like to have a clothes line like Mom had, a long pole with the slit in the middle to hold the line up. A wood stove?! Sounds so nice, I live in a basement apt with One heating and A/C duct, we freeze in the winter and fry in the summer!!

don't worry, I fry in the summer as well as we don't have central air and my bedroom is on the third floor. and I have my parents to thank for how I am as they don't like my generation. and thank you for the compliment :)

Yrnstr 10-26-2011 01:42 AM


Originally Posted by miriam
people still believed God would provide their needs - now they think the government will provide their wants as well as their needs

:thumbup:

I wish we'd once again have Constitutional freedom and a total reversal of all the havoc the Red Diaper Doper babies have wrought in all areas of life.

Endora 06-22-2017 09:08 AM

Gee-whiz, naming off just one or two is such a tease. Not even fair. :)

Rotary telephone (wall-mounted). I loved our old phone!
Party-lines (anyone else remember the days)?
Wringer washing machine and clothesline drying (I still hang laundry on the line to dry)
Cloth diapers and rubber pants (my kids always had fresh clean diapers for their bottoms)

cashs_mom 06-22-2017 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by AlwaysQuilting (Post 4489345)
An automobile (non-computerized) that could be fixed at home by my brothers!

I have one. It does have it's advantages.

I'm not joined at the hip to my electronics. I wish people could just put them away and pay attention to what is actually going on around them. I'm so tired of having to watch out for driver's who are too busy texting or talking to drive and people in the stores and supermarkets who are on their phones and run into you or block aisles and have no idea there are others around.

Endora 06-22-2017 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by cashs_mom (Post 7849355)
I have one. It does have it's advantages.

I'm not joined at the hip to my electronics. I wish people could just put them away and pay attention to what is actually going on around them. I'm so tired of having to watch out for driver's who are too busy texting or talking to drive and people in the stores and supermarkets who are on their phones and run into you or block aisles and have no idea there are others around.

I am sop with you on the electronic gadgetry today! It's completely overrun people's lives. Sitting in a restaurant and watching people, they sit down and don't even converse with one another, because they're too busy on their devices.

Faintly Artistic 06-22-2017 10:32 AM

Yes to all of the above! Plus having neighbors I know and who help each other. Don't know or trust most around here. Porch swings, folks out in the evening...

bearisgray 06-22-2017 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Momma_K (Post 4489338)
Hi All! I was thinking how easy things of yesterday used to be, less complicating, somehow missing the less modern things of then.
If you could chose just one thing, ok maybe two...what would it be?? I'll start by saying, I really would love to have and actually use a nice old wringer washer!
I didn't mind the extra work, clothes were cleaner, less water waist and nothing beat clean sheets and towels hanging on the line!! :-D

I had a wringer washer for many many years - as did my mother and my mother-in-law.

By the time the dirty farm clothes were put in the washer, the water was getting very murky - in some cases it was close to thin mud and there was a layer of dirt in the bottom of the machine that had to be flushed out.
So - were clothes cleaner? I don't know how one can get clean clothes out of dirty water. They were less dirty after going through murky rinses than they were before they were washed - but not nearly as clean as if these filthy garments had been the first batch of items washed.

The guys would wear their work/farm/barn/mecahnic clothes/coveralls until they were very very dirty - my mom described it as "being able to stand up by themselves".

bearisgray 06-22-2017 10:38 AM

When one carried water to the washing machine and carried water out - it made one very conscious of water usage.

popover 06-22-2017 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by BellaBoo (Post 4494278)
The only thing I remember I wish for now is everyone having was a big front porch with lots of chairs and a big porch swing. The wringer washer? I remember my mother and grandmother doing laundry with one. It was hard work and took all day. Nope, don't want ever to go back to backbreaking housework with no modern appliances.

At least obesity and diabetes was rare because of it.

Endora 06-22-2017 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Faintly Artistic (Post 7849432)
Yes to all of the above! Plus having neighbors I know and who help each other. Don't know or trust most around here. Porch swings, folks out in the evening...

Warm memories I remember.

popover 06-22-2017 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by cashs_mom (Post 7849355)
I have one. It does have it's advantages.

I'm not joined at the hip to my electronics. I wish people could just put them away and pay attention to what is actually going on around them. I'm so tired of having to watch out for driver's who are too busy texting or talking to drive and people in the stores and supermarkets who are on their phones and run into you or block aisles and have no idea there are others around.

I have a landline, with an answering machine and shows who is calling. Sometimes I even answer it. NOT carrying one of the dang things around with me means I'm better able to avoid those who don't have sense enough to put theirs down.

Endora 06-22-2017 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by bearisgray (Post 7849436)
I had a wringer washer for many many years - as did my mother and my mother-in-law.

By the time the dirty farm clothes were put in the washer, the water was getting very murky - in some cases it was close to thin mud and there was a layer of dirt in the bottom of the machine that had to be flushed out.
So - were clothes cleaner? I don't know how one can get clean clothes out of dirty water. They were less dirty after going through murky rinses than they were before they were washed - but not nearly as clean as if these filthy garments had been the first batch of items washed.

The guys would wear their work/farm/barn/mecahnic clothes/coveralls until they were very very dirty - my mom described it as "being able to stand up by themselves".

Definitely a more forgiving time, where people spent less time worrying about little things.

Endora 06-22-2017 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by bearisgray (Post 7849438)
When one carried water to the washing machine and carried water out - it made one very conscious of water usage.

Couldn't have said it better. :)

Endora 06-22-2017 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by popover (Post 7849439)
At least obesity and diabetes was rare because of it.

Goodness me, so true!

Endora 06-22-2017 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by popover (Post 7849441)
I have a landline, with an answering machine and shows who is calling. Sometimes I even answer it. NOT carrying one of the dang things around with me means I'm better able to avoid those who don't have sense enough to put theirs down.

I am 100% with you on that! Shameful, isn't it.

bearisgray 06-22-2017 11:02 AM

I wish for less light pollution.

I would like to put that in big black underlined capital letters.

popover 06-22-2017 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by bearisgray (Post 7849460)
I wish for less light pollution.

I would like to put that in big black underlined capital letters.

Another reason why I live way out here. When I turn out the lights at night, its DARK! I can see the stars.

Endora 06-22-2017 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by popover (Post 7849467)
Another reason why I live way out here. When I turn out the lights at night, its DARK! I can see the stars.

That's my favourite.

cashs_mom 06-22-2017 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by popover (Post 7849441)
I have a landline, with an answering machine and shows who is calling. Sometimes I even answer it. NOT carrying one of the dang things around with me means I'm better able to avoid those who don't have sense enough to put theirs down.

I also have a landline and an answering machine. I have a cell phone, but not a smart phone and my cell phone is more of a convenience and for safety since I'm quite often alone in the car. I also don't dash for my cell when it rings downstairs and I'm upstairs or in another room. That's why I have voice mail!

Endora 06-22-2017 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by cashs_mom (Post 7849548)
I also have a landline and an answering machine. I have a cell phone, but not a smart phone and my cell phone is more of a convenience and for safety since I'm quite often alone in the car. I also don't dash for my cell when it rings downstairs and I'm upstairs or in another room. That's why I have voice mail!

Good thinking, Cashs_mom. Better safe than sorry.

popover 06-22-2017 03:15 PM

I used to carry a prepaid flip phone in the car, but it never seemed to have minutes even though I put them in there. Seems they erased everything you didn't use up by the end of the month and start over. Not paying for what I don't get to use.

bearisgray 06-22-2017 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by popover (Post 7849609)
I used to carry a prepaid flip phone in the car, but it never seemed to have minutes even though I put them in there. Seems they erased everything you didn't use up by the end of the month and start over. Not paying for what I don't get to use.

I think there are plans available now where you buy minutes and keep them until you use them.

I think - - - -

ube quilting 06-23-2017 04:27 AM

Side walks and front porches make a community.

ube quilting 06-23-2017 04:40 AM

I could go on forever about things from our past that are better than what we have today.

A real phone on a table or hung on the wall.
Cast iron double sinks with side boards.
Car windows that roll down and air vents and high beam light button on the floor.
Pantries and mud rooms.
Awnings on windows.
roller blinds.
There was a time when houses had "front stairs and back stairs" to the second floor. I loved the back stairs from the kitchen.
Smaller schools in neighborhoods where the kids live.
Local parks with "park benches". Today a park seems to be designated by soccer and baseball fields.

Aghhh! This is making me nuts.:D
peace

ube quilting 06-23-2017 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by popover (Post 7849467)
Another reason why I live way out here. When I turn out the lights at night, its DARK! I can see the stars.

Totally agree with turning out lights. Light pollution is on of those quiet things that happen without realizing it. Our community has a voluntary lights out program. Making people aware of it goes along way to accomplishing it.

Rose Marie 06-29-2017 11:27 AM

I remember the Danny Thomas Show with the bratty kid that talked back. Also Dr Spock ? and his book on how to raise kids. No spanking etc.
They changed everything for the worse.
I used a wringer washer.
Learned to sew on a treadle sewing machine.
Learned to drive in a 1956 Chevy.
Im so bad about not liking new gadgets that my daughter has to turn off my phone at the movie theater. She gave me the phone to begin with or I would still only have a land line.
But I have a very nice fancy Viking sewing machine. A long arm table that I just need a machine for.
I feel very lucky to live in the pine forest mountains of AZ.

Endora 06-29-2017 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Rose Marie (Post 7854045)
I remember the Danny Thomas Show with the bratty kid that talked back. Also Dr Spock ? and his book on how to raise kids. No spanking etc.
They changed everything for the worse.

Regardless of whether or not spanking was universally accepted, or whether it worked or not, kids (from my generation) had more respect for people and things, compared to today's generation. Society, as far as behaviour and respect is concerned, has lost a lot of ground over the past 20-30 years.

quiltingshorttimer 07-02-2017 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Conartist1945 (Post 4489611)
A real person on the other line rather than a recording

yes to this!


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