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bearisgray 06-24-2014 06:50 AM

Math classes
 
Way back when, we learned "arithmetic" in grades 1-6 (no kindergarden then, either), and then we got to be "big kids" and could take "math" in grades 7-12.

I went back to our local community college when I was "mature" - I was a peer tutor - and when I was tutoring someone at a "lower level" - I learned that the method that I knew of how to solve a problem did not match the method that he was learning.

So I asked the instructors if I could sit in on those classes. WOW! I learned SOOO MUCH in them - it was either never taught way back when - or I was absent those days - which were many.

Math really is useful -

Hardly anyone will admit to being illiterate when it comes to reading - even though a lot of people are.

It seems odd that some people almost brag about being functionally illiterate in basic arithmetic/math.

Or - I don't need to know anything about it - I have a calculator to do the work.

It's still helpful to know WHICH buttons to press to get an answer that makes sense!

Tartan 06-24-2014 07:11 AM

I am math challenged. I can do the basics but algebra is a mystery and at this point in my life I don't see that changing. Am I proud of that fact? No but I have learned to stop beating myself up about it. We are all gifted in different ways.

nativetexan 06-24-2014 07:14 AM

I tended to hate math but found everyone learns in different ways. Once a teacher sat with me and explained a problem in a different way than before and a light bulb went off. Duh! of course, that's it. Since then I've explained things in what ever way necessary to get it across. Works well. We all are different.

bearisgray 06-24-2014 07:21 AM

In 9th grade (I think), I sat through a whole year of trig - and got absolutely NOTHING out of it. I tried to read the book - NOTHING clicked. The instructor - was, for me, a complete dud.

Many years later, one of the engineers at a place I worked at spent about 20 minutes explaining the basic idea (with a circle and triangles) and then the basic idea clicked. A few years later another student (at the community college) explained SAH-COH-TOA - and another light bulb went on. Can I use trig well? No - but at least I have an idea of how it works.

I use my calculator to pull up the angles for the Triangle in a Square units.(Peaky and Spike as Doreen Speckmann called the unit.)

I continue to have those AHA!!!! moments - when I could use a concept - but then when I UNDERSTOOD the concept! - that is such a joy when that happens.

teacherbailey 06-25-2014 02:59 AM

I hated math all through high school because it made no sense and I didn't see the point in learning it......so of course, I grew up and found that I LOVE teaching math! Because of quilting (really because I never met a pattern that I didn't need to alter in some way!) math makes sense to me. And because of my bad experiences learning it, I teach everything that I can in at least two ways----and tell my students to pick the one that makes the most sense to their brains, because all brains work differently! All of what everybody said resonates with me.....I think sometimes our brains need to mature before we really understand things......

kydeb 06-25-2014 05:43 AM

I LOVE math!! I love the numbers and I love the processes! My favorite subjects in school were Math and English - which was odd because it's usually Math and Science - English and History. My career turned out to be budgets/grants/contracts. I retired from that and, after a little over 3 years, went back to work full time. I'm a bookkeeper - math rules :-) It also helps in quilting!!! LOL

solstice3 06-25-2014 12:57 PM

Every time you turn around they are using a different method to accomplish the same goal!

DebbieJJ 06-25-2014 02:01 PM

I don't see what the big deal is about which method is used, as long as the answer is correct. Some kids, young and old, seem to "get" the math in different ways (methods). Now, I LOVE math, it might take me a minute to get the answer, but I love the calculations, don't know why, but there it is.:p

kathdavis 06-25-2014 03:07 PM

Method doesn't matter, just so you know how to get the answer without a calculator. One should at least be able to figure simple percentages, division, etc. so you can make sure you can figure the best deal and that you aren't being cheated at the cash register. I've had many clerks at stores who couldn't tell if they were figuring 40% off, or even 50% off correctly. So sad. Math is a good thing!

JanieH 06-25-2014 03:12 PM

Geometry was always my favorite; I could just "see" it.

When I discovered quilting almost 40 years later, I was so excited because all that geometry came back to me and was so wonderful!

madamekelly 06-25-2014 05:29 PM

I loved math in school, found out how little I knew trying to help my kids with theirs, and majored in math in college so I had the learn the new way, then took a 6 month vacation, had a stroke, so now I only know enough to quilt and I am fine with that. (My DD's helped me relearn it.)

mumzer 06-26-2014 03:29 AM

AGREE! Math in my school days was so simple but the NEW MATH that my grandchildren are doing I can't make heads or tails out of. Some teachers let it go as long as you get the right answer but others really push it and make it frustrating.

Caswews 06-26-2014 06:07 AM

I had to laugh.. I sometimes struggle with basic math (with an automatic duh after I solve it!LOL), but give me algebra, trig and I have the problem solved.
Just amazing how our brains perceive things and retain things in life ... just amazing !!

w1613s 06-26-2014 07:57 AM

Either you do or you don't. I did until I hit three dimensional geometry and Calculus II in college. Then I "didn't" in a big way. Both of my children added a third dimension: "don't want to."

I insisted and they learned math. One is a data and data systems analyst and the other is a mechanical engineer. Everyone lived through the process but one has a horizontally split wooden spoon I gilded and framed over the word, "Believe." It is on his wall, over his desk. We will not discuss exactly how the split happened. The other child often tells me how glad she is that I was "hard as..." about "things."

If you can handle math and English as well as determined (read that last in all caps.), you can rule the world. Or at least eat regularly. In the meantime, use what you "do get" and enjoy it.

Pat

Oops, gotta go to Sam's. Kitty litter run.

ILoveToQuilt 06-26-2014 05:40 PM

DD is a physics major and she's taking Calculus 1 & 2 this summer! I don't envy her! DH balances the checkbook (I just write in the amounts, he does the calculations). I barely passed math in high school (D- in all the math classes I took) and hate math to this day! Thank goodness for calculators, husbands who are engineers and daughters who are physics majors! LOL

mamajan 06-27-2014 01:59 PM

I have a son who loved math! In fact he had learned his multiplication tables before kindergarten! In grade school he was a peer tutor! Tutoring continued in High School, and in College he was working on becoming a math teacher. Things kin of went sideways and he got his degree in Music/arranging and composing. Now he's back in school finishing his degree in Math!

Seaside gal 07-16-2014 05:18 AM

I never liked math and probably never will at this point but - I make myself do adding, subtracting, multiplication, and division with paper and pencil just to keep in practice. For math problems in quilting, I draw it out on paper. Works for me.

tessagin 07-16-2014 05:41 AM

My cousin's daughter's math teacher also teaches science and Home-Ec. Small/medium sized town where those classes have 100% attendance rate. They are also involved in 4H,FHA, and FFA.

bearisgray 07-16-2014 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by tessagin (Post 6803582)
My cousin's daughter's math teacher also teaches science and Home-Ec. Small/medium sized town where those classes have 100% attendance rate. They are also involved in 4H,FHA, and FFA.

Math, science, and home-ec actually do go together.

My Mom frequently referred to her recipes as "formulas" -

There have been a lot of math related questions on this board - so that shows that there is/was a need/use for knowing math.

Calculators are helpful and useful - but one still needs to know which buttons to press to get a reasonable answer.


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