I know for a fact that many of you are also kittie lovers here. I got my first kitty about a year or-so ago. We found her outside (lived near a barn where people just dump off kitties all the time). She has several health issues - she's a persian who was 'over bred' so she' has breathing problems, as well as ear problems. She also eats like a squirrel, picking up her food in her little paws to feed herself, because her face is so flat she can't get to her food. She practically drowns herself in her water, and I need to make sure her water bowl is completely full. She's only about 5 pounds and full-grown. SO, my "Boo Kittie" is a very unique creature. She's pure black with orange eyes.

I need advice because Boo is also a naughty kittie, and hubby's not liking it at all, especially in our newly-built home. Boo uses her litter box 'when she feels like it': in fact, I had to buy puppy pads to put NEXT to the litter box because she keep peeing there. Tried all kinds of litter, different boxes, had her tested for urinary problems, etc. etc. She's a bit sneaky, and has even walked into the corner of the living room while we were all there to relieve herself. Either she's a dummie, she's rebellious, or something else, but it's gonna get her kicked out soon if I can't figure her out. I don't believe she can actually smell because of her 'innie' nose, so she's not visiting old spots.

Boo is this loveable little thing who is affectionate and so happy to be here, as you can tell by the picture of her with my son. SO, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Trina

When my Rudy (see avatar) gets his nose out of joint (i.e., feels neglected; hasn't been fed when he thinks he should he should be fed), he pees in our bedroom on the wall near my Bob's dresser. Why he picks on Bob, I don't know. Jealousy?

If Kitty is peeing in "front" of you, it might be her way of sending a message using Rudy's method. Tough one, for sure. Hope you find the answer!

It could be she doesn't like the litter or the box. Try a different brand of litter or even one of the "green" litters and see if she likes them better.

Been there, done that. Tried a covered little box, big ones, little ones, put boxes all over the house (upstairs & downstairs), different litter, etc. Sometimes she pees in the litterbox (she did last night), sometimes she doesn't. Maybe she's just too darn lazy to walk to the laundry room. This kittie lays around all day long. Catnip won't even get her moving. Anybody looking for a lazy kittie, persians are definitely the way to go. I love laid back, cuddly kitties. :) BUT, not ones who pee all over the darn house.

And then there's the other issue I have with a 100-lb. Weimerainer with separation anxiety... The animals are driving me nuts! :roll:

I had a persian and after I fell totally head over heals for him, he did the same peeing thing. I even went one step further and bought a huge kitty condo cage to keep him in with a litter box but he went beside it in the bottom of this huge thing! There was nothing that worked and we tried for 3 years with the help of behaviorist and veternarians. Finally we had to put him to sleep in my arms because I was afraid to give him away because someone might hurt him for his behavior. His fur did not allow him to be an outside cat along with his laid backness. I was sick for the longest time before and after but we had to spend almost 3000 dollars fixing floors, carpets and even the heat vents in the floor where he all but ruined things. I feel for you but hope you find something that works. I won't have another persian because I was told afterwards that persians have the worst time with litter boxes!!! My Jack Russell takes Chloricalm from the vet everyday for seperation anxiety and nerves. It helps along with long walks everyday! Good Luck! I'll watch this thread to see the answers.

Cat.JustAnswer.com This just popped up as I was getting ready to type. Says they have 11 Vets on the line at all times. Maybe give it a try. What I was going to originally say, Persians have problems smelling in general. This does cause litterbox problems. We had to buy some liquid and put it into the clean litterbox so Fifi could find her litter. I can't remember its name but it upset me that keeping it too clean was causing her a problem as she couldn't smell it. It did help, she also would get urinary tract infections then she was constantly going everywhere.

When my grandmother died, I adopted her geriatric cat. We had three other cats at the time, but he fit right in with them. My hubby had built what we called "the cat room" and it had a huge enclosed area (width of room) that contained four litterboxes. I opened the side of the enclosure to clean the boxes. Well, I started noticing someone was peeing and pooping outside of the box, right at the entrance. I had no idea which one it was until my baby was born. While I was in the hospital, DH brought home one of the babies little shirts for the cats to smell. Well, Dusty (Mema's cat) sniffed it and then peed on the couch! Right in front of DH. He was furious. He took the cat to the vet and told them to board him until we could figure out what to do. I had them do a urinalysis and he had diabetes! So have them check for something like that, not just a UTI.

I have a rescue Persian, lovely but timid. She started out peeing on the bathroom rug after I changed her litter for the little wooden pellets. She flatly refused to use her box then. So I changed it but she still had accidents, right beside it. Always when I went to the bathroom both cats would rush in for a treat. They even sat and begged!! So I would close the door and when I got up I would order her to "go potty" and gently put her on the block in front of it. She finally got the idea, and now after eating she goes into her box on her own, then is petted and given a tiny treat afterwards!!

Because of the male's way of peeing, standing, I had a problem with the wall and floor behind his, so now have both litter boxes from the huge white plastic feed storage containers I got from CostCo. I have three of them, one is always outside being sanitized by the sun and wind, then it makes it back to first the male and next time exchanged with the female's box. Now I don't have any trouble with either one of them, except for the male slapping her for even looking into his own potty!!

Wow...bless your heart. I had a cat do that once but it was a bladder infection and you said you've already checked that. This may sound nuts but if she was outside, you could try putting dirt/sand in the box rather than litter. It worth a shot I guess.

Well, at least I know there may be hope!! So, dumb question, but when you say you 'put her on the block in front of' the litter box, can you tell me what that means? AND, Boo LOVES to pee on my rugs. Strangest thing. I really hope I can figure out this cat's brain! Maybe I could keep treats in her room & when she uses the litterbox I give her one. Not sure if she'd 'get it' if I don't catch her in the act.

Thanks for the info.

Sorry, no suggestions for the potty problem inside, but for the water bowl...have you tried to use a rabbit water bottle? The ones with the metal tip and ball that hangs upsidedown? I had a friend that bred "squshed faced kitties" and she used the rabbit water bottles. She also had a kitty door built into the wall connected to covered, enclosed dog run with pea (ha ha) gravel and sand. The kitties would "go" outside and she didnt have a litterbox inside.

I have no suggestions, just sympathy with you. One of our kitties has been using a puppy pad for years. Sometimes she will use the litter box, sometimes the puppy pad. Luckily, she only peas on the puppy pad so for. She is old and so darn sweet and loving, that we just deal with it. The grandkids adore this cat and wool her to pieces but she doesn't seem to mind. She even kind of grieves when our granddaughter leaves. Lexi and the kitty seem to have a special bond.

Oh gosh, what a dilemna. I feel for you. I have 3 indoor cats, 1 of them almost 16. She is having lots of problems now (health issues) which I have to constantly clean up. Its not fun. I deal with it by laying paper towels on the floor under the boxes, use the plastic box liners and then lay kleenexes draped over the sides of the boxes. That way I can just pick up the kleenex that is soaked with pee or poop. She can't seem to get it to go IN the box. I love my animals dearly, but I gotta admit...they just are NOT meant to live inside houses. Best of luck to you with your sweet girl.

Yes, animals are CERTAINLY a lot of work! I started the 'good reinforcement' last night with Boo. She was insisting on trying to jump up on our lap when we had snacks on the couch and we didn't let her, then deliberately went to a corner and I knew what she was up to. I scooped her up, took her to her room, and she peed & I gave her a treat. I feel like I'm playing mind games with this poor thing. I REALLY hope she gets it!

I agree with this one.....ironically, thankfully, our cats preferred the cheap brand!!!! It's hard when you've fallen in love with them and they start doing things like this. Good luck!

The vets will tell you it is probablya urinary tract infection or a bladder infection, I have a cat that stays out in warm weather but I bring her in when it gets cold, I have to put newspaper around the box because she will pooh in the box but goes pee on the paper, we had to put her outside because of bad habits but since we brought her in this winter she has contained it to aroun the box

We had a Persian stray who did this after using the litter box for years. We always thought she was a little "Off" in the head from having been a stray. Couldn't cure her bad habits, and had to put her down. It's a terrible choice to make, but sometimes the only alternative. Can she be an outside cat?

You have all my sympathy. We adopted a barn kitty from a friend. She was just an orange tabby we named Katisha. She bonded very well with our family which was surprising as we had three othe cats at the time. The other cats were used to gettnig new brothers or sisiters and didn't take offense at a new cat in the family. At two years old, Katisha started peeing all over the house including in front of us. And the other cats all just stayed out of her way. We had the vet check her out and found she had a heart condition where the inside of her heart was still growing but the outside stayed the same size (I forget what he called it). Vet said the blood flow was not consistant enought for her to get around. Katisha lived to be 5 years old and at the last could barely move to get around at the end. We had to put her to sleep in my arms. When we were house training her, I put hay and bits of dirt in the litter box so she would know where to go. May be this will help you also. Good luck, Boo sounds like a cutie.

My female, Emmy, likes to poop outside the box. Once in while she will poo in the box, but most of the time it's beside the box, on the kitchen run, or kitchen floor. The vet told me it's a behavior issue. Duh, I knew that, but how do I change her behavior. Recently I've tried unsented litter, the first day she went in her box and I got excited thinking that was the answer. Well, next day it's outside the box. I tried cleaning the box first thing in the morning and last thing at night. My next change is going to be a bigger, clear, plastic box. Reggie doesn't have any issues, he even buries Emmy's lumps.
My daughter has a male kitty that pees at random outside of his box usually when he thinks he's being ingored.

I love my kitty babies, but I don't want to be cleaning up poop for the rest of her life, she's 6.

Is she an indoor cat now? Perhaps she is mad because she likes being outside.

I think you just answered your own question. Could be the frustration of your Weimerainer that the cat is picking up on and expressing it also.

Once I had a persian who was behaving like that and the vet prescribed depression meds - it helped

Could there be a problem with the pads on her feet?
Maybe the litter hurts them..

maybe put the pads in the bcx she may not like litter.we had one like that till we figured it out she didn't want her paws to touch dirt or litter. at least that took care of her problem.

Medication is available - one of my daughter's cat was put on Prozac (yes, Prozac) and is doing much better. She has 6 kitties.

Have you tried using the litter that is shaped like pellets, i think it is some sort of wheat pellets. Maybe a different type of litter might help.

that is why i dont have a cat LOL

We had 2 babies dumped in the parking lot right near us the week after Christmas and I took them knowing I could take them to the kitty shelter the next day only to find out, they weren't taking any new kitties. Oops!!! So we inherited 2 (boy & girl) to go with out quite large fixed female. They were starving and I figured only about 4 weeks old but did not have any problem eating and when I set up the litter they went right to it. I almost fell out. The little black one (tiniest) had diarrhea so bad it was sad. Could not make it to box. Got some Probiotics & it took about a week and she got better. Was only 1# when she was 7 weeks old after being so sick, but is eating like a horse. I am going broke. Little Max is twice as big but they are so much fun to watch them frolicking. Hopefully you can hang in there with her. I googled cats with peeing problems and found lots of sites that told a lot so maybe try some. Good luck.

Peg-TX

We've had 4 cats - not at the same time - but everyone of them had issues with my husbands shoes. Not a nice thing. We got them "fixed" and that behavior stopped. Have you tried that? We had to wait for the females to come of age. We're now having trouble with one little darlin digging in the carpet when they have about 4 stratching post of various types and sizes all over the house. I did have a persian and loved him dearly. He aged and developed some health issues and eventually died in his litter box. Had to get a box with a lid because my first little darlin thought he had to dig to China before he could go. Had litter all over the room. My persian wanted privacy so it worked out.
Who knows what evil lurks in the minds of cats and we still love em. Why??

We've had 4 cats - not at the same time - but everyone of them had issues with my husbands shoes. Not a nice thing. We got them "fixed" and that behavior stopped. Have you tried that? We had to wait for the females to come of age. We're now having trouble with one little darlin digging in the carpet when they have about 4 stratching post of various types and sizes all over the house. I did have a persian and loved him dearly. He aged and developed sone health issues and eventually died in his litter box. Had to get a box with a lid because my first little darlin thought he had to dig to China before he could go. Had litter all over the room. My persian wanted privacy so it worked out.
Who knows what evil lurks in the minds of cats and we still love em. Why?? We all like the litter you can get at Costo. That's the only place I've seen it. I tried those pellets. Cats did not like that at all. My friend had hers declawed and her vet recommended the pettets but the cat had other ideas. She didn't like then either. I gave my bag away. Evidently it's really good at soaking up spilled oil.

We've had 4 cats - not at the same time - but everyone of them had issues with my husbands shoes. Not a nice thing. We got them "fixed" and that behavior stopped. Have you tried that? We had to wait for the females to come of age. We're now having trouble with one little darlin digging in the carpet when they have about 4 stratching post of various types and sizes all over the house. I did have a persian and loved him dearly. He aged and developed sone health issues and eventually died in his litter box. Had to get a box with a lid because my first little darlin thought he had to dig to China before he could go. Had litter all over the room. My persian wanted privacy so it worked out.

Had to laugh at this ad about curiosity killing the cat. Because satisfaction brought it back.
Who knows what evil lurks in the minds of cats and we still love em. Why?? We all like the litter you can get at Costo. That's the only place I've seen it. I tried those pellets. Cats did not like that at all. My friend had hers declawed and her vet recommended the pettets but the cat had other ideas. She didn't like then either. I gave my bag away. Evidently it's really good at soaking up spilled oil.

Don't dislike cats but will never have one in the house or let one roam outside either.I do hate the idea of a litter box in my house and on my counters.Urine cat smell is the worst.Sorry cat lovers.......

I was told when I had my Himalayan that behavior was fairly normal for the "inbreeds." I finally trained mine to pee in the bathroom sink and poop in the tub. Grossed everyone else out, but it was an improvement over the guest bedroom! We have a rescue kitty now that basically refuses to use the litter box. She goes outside when its warm and just about anywhere in the house when its not. I've decided she is more important than the carpet, so I love on her and I'll replace the carpet when she's gone.

I have found that when a cat is declawed they act differently. Declawing is inhumane and horrible - it is like someone cutting off our fingers to the first knuckle.

the only persian we ever had hated the litter box but loved the bathtub drain. we picked up the hard stuff and rinsed down the other. when she got old she moved over to the walk-in shower
stall. good kitty. :-) she went to sleep in my arms at age 20+.

I brough in a stray a few years ago and she did the same thing. I could be right there looking at her she would look up at me with her big blue eyes and pee. After a 3 years of that I had it. I called a no kill shelter they couldn't take her. So i put her back outside. There she was for about a month and then she was gone. I think someone took her in since she was so beautiful and had the same problem and put her back out because she returned 2 months later. Within a few weeks the shelter called they had a spot and they took her to find her a forever home.

I hate to say this but from my experience she was and outside cat I don't think you will ever train her.

When my cat used to pee on the floor beside the box, I knew it was time to wash out the box. I would dump the kitty litter in a bag (especially if it was recently clean) to save it.
Then I would scrub out the litter box with hot water and dishwashing soap, dry it with a papertowel or two, and dump the kitty litter I had saved, clean or used, back in the box.
It worked just fine!
She used it - until in her opinion, the box needed washing out again!
also.... try putting just a pinch of catnip in the clean kitty litter. Once they get in the box.....well.....

Sometimes this is how cats respond to stress. There is a pheromone that you can get that helps. I can't remember the name of it cause our current cat hasn't needed calming but they now make a collar with it or you can put it near her litter box.

does she pee and poo at the same time every day? like, right after she eats?

if she does, can you lead (drag, pull, push, carry) her her to the box and wait with her for a while until she does her stuff and then reward her? maybe she'll get the idea.

also, someone said, put a little outside dirt in there as well.

In my experience a cat that has been an outdoors cat for awhile doesn"t really seem to want to take to the litter box,I had one who wanted to stay out then come in to eat and wanted right back out,in his few minutes in he would go to the back door down two steps and poop. I learned to put him right back out!