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Quiltcrazyva 10-13-2011 07:18 AM

I currently own a very old Singer 1191 with a 12' table. This was put together by Gammill about 12-13 years ago and has been stored ever since. It was given to me by a very good friend and now I'm ready to replace it with a longarm. I'm looking at an APQS MIllineum, it's a 2005 model, has an "L" bobbin, not an "M" and I'm thinking the seller will probably take around $9500.00. Is this a good buy? Will I regret not having an "M" size bobbin. What is the yardage difference between an "L" and an "M" bobbin? I'm having a hard time making up my mind. I can get a brand spankin' new HQ 18" Avante, with all the bells and whistles for about $8500. I'm wanting to use it for a small home business and not just for personal use so that's why I was thinking the Milli would be better. Please if anyone can lend some opinions I sure would appreciate it. I'm in a quandry here!

Murphy 10-13-2011 07:22 AM

Hi and welcome to the board from Iowa. I am sure someone will come along soon and assist with this decision.

GABBYABBY 10-13-2011 07:26 AM

Welcome to the QB!!! You have come to the right
place for all your sewing questions. Sorry, I can't
answer the question you have right now because I
don't do LongArm quilting.

arkansasquilter123 10-13-2011 07:27 AM

Not trying to sell you on anything, but I love the larger bobbins. Also, I went to MQS in Overland Park KS in May and test drove all of the machines. They have made great advancements in machines in the past few years, so I would advise that you check out ALL the machines and see which one best fits you. There are a lot of different options that you might want to consider. A brand new one might not be as expensive as you might think.

suezquilts 10-13-2011 07:57 AM

Welcome.
I would go with a larger bobbin. I agree with arkansasquilter, try them out before hand.

I have purchased 2 Gammills and I really love them, so going to a smaller bobbin would be hard. My friend has a Millie, and I see her struggle with the size of her bobbin although she loves her machine also.

Enjoy the process!
Sue

blueangel 10-13-2011 08:06 AM

Welcome from Kansas

the casual quilter 10-13-2011 08:38 AM

I opted for the larger bobbins and am glad I did. The downside is that the bobbins are more expensive, but I think it's well worth it.

Janet L52 10-13-2011 10:02 AM

Welcome from northern California!

OCQuilts 10-13-2011 10:59 AM

Current Gammill Sale price Is $8995 for an 18" machine with a 12 ft table. Includes Stitch regulator and everything you need!

Susanna10 10-13-2011 11:05 AM

Welcome from Kansas

CoyoteQuilts 10-13-2011 02:07 PM

Get the biggest throated machine you can afford. Nobody cried about not getting an 18" throat when they got a 24", but everybody always says, "I sure wish I had a larger throat". Remember with each roll of the quilt you loose a little bit of that throat space. Yes, I know that a lot of people have 9" inch machines and they do fabulous work with them, but I also know it gets old quick quilting 1 and 1/2 inch across roll, quilt, roll....

Lindsey 10-13-2011 02:11 PM

I have a 23 inch throat but they didn't come in a larger size until lasst year. I am very happy with my 23 inch throat and it matters not to me that it isn't larger. I did hear gammil is having a great sale right now and you can get new for under 10k..

Lindsey 10-13-2011 02:11 PM

I have a 23 inch throat but they didn't come in a larger size until lasst year. I am very happy with my 23 inch throat and it matters not to me that it isn't larger. I did hear gammil is having a great sale right now and you can get new for under 10k..

debbieumphress 10-13-2011 08:04 PM

Welcome to the QB. Waving from Texas. Looks like you are getting help already.Gotta love this board.

Willa 10-13-2011 11:21 PM

Welcome!

sik1010 10-14-2011 02:08 AM

Hello, and welcome from Michigan!

wuv2quilt 10-14-2011 03:29 AM

Hello & Welcome to the board from North Carolina :)

J Carol 10-14-2011 03:48 AM

Welcome from Adrian, MI

lfletcher 10-14-2011 04:01 AM

I just bought a Gammill Vision 18/8 in June with a 10' table (you can also get a 12' table for the same price). The only extras I got were the Starter kit and casters. The total price was $10,099.61 delivered and assembled. I love it. I believe their sale is still going on. It does use the larger size M bobbin. I am quilting as a business.

QKO 10-14-2011 04:17 AM

Can't answer your questions, but hello and welcome to QB, from western Nevada!

arkansasquilter123 10-14-2011 04:23 AM

I have an Innova with lightning stitch. LOVE it. They have sales sometimes, too. PM me if you want more info.

QuiltnNan 10-14-2011 06:15 AM

Welcome from Minnesota and happy quilting :)

Nanaquilts44 10-14-2011 06:24 AM

Welcome from Houston TX!

Abby'smom 10-14-2011 06:48 AM

welcome from se TX

Lori B. 10-14-2011 07:32 AM

Welcome from Michigan.:)

pollym44 10-14-2011 09:13 AM

Hi from Ms.

jc469273 10-14-2011 09:24 AM

Welcome from South Carolina. I have a business and use a Prodigy machine. I love this machine. PM me if you want more information.

jojosnana 10-14-2011 09:46 AM

WElcome from Michigan. I hope you find the perfect machine for you!

Thumbelina 10-14-2011 10:26 AM

Welcome from NE Ohio.

QuiltingNinaSue 10-14-2011 11:50 AM

Welcome from North Central Missouri. Sometime in the future I would love to add a Longarm to my sewing room.

joyce888 10-14-2011 01:43 PM

Welcome from Canton, GA. This is a thread I'm very interested in also.

Tweety2911 10-14-2011 06:01 PM

Lot's of help already listed. Good Luck in this endeavor.
Welcome from New York

LAB55 10-15-2011 07:28 PM

Hello from Western Mountain Maryland !! :-D

dphelps 10-15-2011 07:46 PM

Welcome from North Carolina. I just saw a box of L bobbins for sale on SewItsForSale (a Yahoo group) today.

Annaquilts 10-15-2011 07:51 PM

I have seen Millenniums 2006-2007 M bobbin and 12 foot tables go for $10,000 $11,000. So maybe you can look a round a little more. Also the size bobbin seems to be an important point for many people. I have heard nothing but good things about the Avante. There sure aren't any used ones for sale yet. 18 in. throat seems a bit small to me. Can you afford a Fusion?

heather1949 10-16-2011 01:00 AM

Hi and welcome from Victoria,Australia.

ann clare 10-16-2011 03:40 AM

Welcome from Ireland

Jammin' Jane 10-16-2011 11:53 AM

Hello and welcome from Minnesota!

Quiltcrazyva 10-17-2011 05:59 AM

Thanks for all the welcomes. I appreciate all of your opinions and you 've really made me think about which machine to get and why. I have test-driven several different brands but obviously I need to drive a few more. Thanks again, quilting friends!

3incollege 10-17-2011 06:03 AM

Welcome from Pa.


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