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    At a recent visit to my LQS the owner and I were talking about threads for FMQ and she recommended YLI bottom line thread so bought a reel. I have always been taught, n read that you should always use the same thread in your bobbin as in your top thread but now.........

    I have just finished a sofa throw for my Sister and my FMQ must be the best I have ever done, the tension is fantastic and my sewing seemed so much better and that was using a 40 cotton thread and the YLI in my bobbin.

    Now I was browsing Leah Day's site and noticed that she uses it too, so I am in good company :lol:

    Must go back to the LQS and stock up :thumbup:

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    When working on machine applique, I use Sulky Rayon on top and Sulky bobbin thread on bottom. This is the only time I've used two separate threads. I'm going to bookmark this and follow it. Thanks for info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloradosky
    When working on machine applique, I use Sulky Rayon on top and Sulky bobbin thread on bottom. This is the only time I've used two separate threads. I'm going to bookmark this and follow it. Thanks for info.
    I will be interested in what other members say as it is against all that I have been taught but I was amazed at the results.

    A quote from Leah Day's site
    "As you've probably noticed this week that you can't quite see the stitching on the backs of these blocks.

    I've been using The Bottom Line thread, which is probably the thinnest thread in existence. You'd never know it was white thread on lavender fabric because the thread is so fine it blends right in.

    Just goes to show that your thread choice matters in any quilt!"

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    I use Bottom Line as well and it's great in the bobbin and also in the top for applique or FMQ if you don't want heaviness, when pebbling for eg. It's from Superior Threads though, not YLI. :-D

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    i love using bottom line thread---you can get so much more on the bobbin than with the heavier top thread. and it always runs smooth...
    i know there are (recommendations) to use the same thread top and bottom- but i (think) that recommendation is usually made when someone is having tension issues- sometimes tension problems can be solved by using the same thread top and bottom
    i have never had a tension problem when i am using a (bobbin thread) with a more multi-purpose thread...only when i mix other threads -- like decorative threads/heavier threads.

    glad you have found bottom line! it is a great thread!

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    this is a very common practice amongst longarm quilters.

    i've been using this thread in the bobbin for 5 years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k3n
    I use Bottom Line as well and it's great in the bobbin and also in the top for applique or FMQ if you don't want heaviness, when pebbling for eg. It's from Superior Threads though, not YLI. :-D
    My LQS only stocks the YLI one, I have just been there for another reel and she was really impressed with my FMQ, she thought I had a LA :lol: (I wish) she hadn't tried the thread, she did, as I used to, always uses the same in the bobbin as in the top, I think she might be trying something different soon :twisted:

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    Sorry - I didn't know that YLI also did a thread called Bottom Line, how confusing! LOL

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    I am using Bottom Line in my LA right now for the first time with Isacord 40wt embroidery thread in the top. So far I am loving it and I especially like how much more thread the bobbin holds.

    But Bottom Line is definitely a Superior Threads product. It is copyrighted and trademarked as a name brand Superior product.
    http://www.superiorthreads.com/shop/...e/description/

    If you are using a YLI product it is not Bottom Line. It may be their Basting and Bobbin thread which is cotton (bottom line is a 60 wt poly). Their website doesn't state what weight thread it is. YLI makes wonderful thread as well.
    http://www.ylicorp.com/YLIQuilting.html
    http://www.ylicorp.com/Basting&Bobbin.html

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    I normally only use it for my peicing. I like to have a varigated thread for my bobbin when I'm quilting it. I have been doing alot of plain colour backs lately so I wanted the quilting to stand out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feline fanatic
    If you are using a YLI product it is not Bottom Line. It may be their Basting and Bobbin thread which is cotton (bottom line is a 60 wt poly).
    You are quite right that is exactly what I have bought, and it is wonderful, will this product be similar to the other one you have: http://www.creativegrids.com/acatalo..._TH001418.html

    Here in the UK our supplies are a bit different to over the pond :)

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    I've not used Bottom Line, but I do use Wonderfil's Invasifil...it's a 100 wt., so a little thinner. When I use the Invisafil, the stitches are unnoticeable. I've been considering going to B.L. Do you think it's comparable to a 100 wt. considering B.L. is a 60 wt.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QultingaddictUK
    Quote Originally Posted by feline fanatic
    If you are using a YLI product it is not Bottom Line. It may be their Basting and Bobbin thread which is cotton (bottom line is a 60 wt poly).
    You are quite right that is exactly what I have bought, and it is wonderful, will this product be similar to the other one you have: http://www.creativegrids.com/acatalo..._TH001418.html

    Here in the UK our supplies are a bit different to over the pond :)
    The link your provided to creative grids is definitely Superior Thread's Bottom Line, not a YLI product. You can see it says Superior right on the spool. So if this is what you got it is exactly what we are using here. I love Creative Grids rulers! Never realized they were made in the UK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by feline fanatic
    Quote Originally Posted by QultingaddictUK
    Quote Originally Posted by feline fanatic
    If you are using a YLI product it is not Bottom Line. It may be their Basting and Bobbin thread which is cotton (bottom line is a 60 wt poly).
    You are quite right that is exactly what I have bought, and it is wonderful, will this product be similar to the other one you have: http://www.creativegrids.com/acatalo..._TH001418.html

    Here in the UK our supplies are a bit different to over the pond :)
    The link your provided to creative grids is definitely Superior Thread's Bottom Line, not a YLI product. You can see it says Superior right on the spool. So if this is what you got it is exactly what we are using here. I love Creative Grids rulers! Never realized they were made in the UK!
    Oh thank you so much for letting me know as I have a 10% discount with them, and it's free postage at present :thumbup:

    I have always used Creative grid rulers and recommend them to our all my patchwork class and friends I love the non slip discs incorporated in them and also their plain black n white markings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skippitydodahquilts
    I've not used Bottom Line, but I do use Wonderfil's Invasifil...it's a 100 wt., so a little thinner. When I use the Invisafil, the stitches are unnoticeable. I've been considering going to B.L. Do you think it's comparable to a 100 wt. considering B.L. is a 60 wt.?
    I have always used BL in the bobbin and have recently got Invisafil - I'd say it is a little finer than BL but very similar. I never had any issues with BL, it balances nicely tension wise with everything of any thickness. :-D

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    I love this thread for bobbin or needle or both!

    And it's the absolutely most wonderful thread for hand applique that I've tried yet! Smooth and no tangling - keep the needle moving every few stitches and no shredding. And it just disappears into the applique piece. I usually use just four neutrals and they are invisible on nearly everything - cream, taupe, silver and grey.

    I quilted my daughter's rainbow log cabin with micro designs, drawn along every seam line with Bottom Line black. (The backing, binding and shams are also black) It drew very fine little waves, stars, cactus, hearts, flowers, suns - and no lint, either! :)

    I really LOVE this stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by k3n
    I use Bottom Line as well and it's great in the bobbin and also in the top for applique or FMQ if you don't want heaviness, when pebbling for eg. It's from Superior Threads though, not YLI. :-D
    Yes, it is Superior. One problem I have had with Superior prewound bobbins is that when I use the auto cutter on my quilting machine (BabyLock Quilters Choice Pro) on a frame, the end of the bobbin thread kind of curls up and falls back into the bottom of the machine. I have to move the machine all the way from under the quilt and open the bobbin compartment and take the bobbin holder out and pull the thread out some more. Maybe my bobbin tension is too tight for them? Suggestions?

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    I had always heard that as well but I see more and more places where they are using bobbin thread instead. Here is a site that has alot about threads. I hope it helps.

    http://www.quiltuniversity.com/difficult_threads.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by k3n
    Quote Originally Posted by skippitydodahquilts
    I've not used Bottom Line, but I do use Wonderfil's Invasifil...it's a 100 wt., so a little thinner. When I use the Invisafil, the stitches are unnoticeable. I've been considering going to B.L. Do you think it's comparable to a 100 wt. considering B.L. is a 60 wt.?
    I have always used BL in the bobbin and have recently got Invisafil - I'd say it is a little finer than BL but very similar. I never had any issues with BL, it balances nicely tension wise with everything of any thickness. :-D
    Thanks! Invisafil is made in Canada and the shipping charges are killin' me!

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    FYI Superior Threads has an awsome website, newsletter, and specials.
    'bottom line' is wonderful and so is 'sew fine'and for top thread i love the wonderful range of colors of 'king tut'
    anyway, the wedsite is a treat to the eyes and mind.
    [email protected]

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    I've been using Bottom Line (Superior) for a while and really love it. It plays well with whatever I use for top thread; I use it for both FMQ and piecing. What I REALLY like about it is that you can get so much more thread on the bottom than normal thread! I had the chance last month to take a class from Libby Lehman, who "designed" this thread ... actually, she told us that she gets to pick out the colors! And she did a good job, because they have a lot of nice colors to choose from.

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    I love Bottom Line, it is so thin but strong enough that I can't break it easily pulling on it. I sometimes use it on both top and bottom but mostly bottom. I can get twice as much thread on it. Our LQS does not carry any bobbin thread (50 wt or thinner) so I have to go over to superior threads and purchase it on line. Never regretted it.

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    We just had a class on thread at my embroidery group. Has anybody used BL on an embroidery machine? It takes SO much thread. You are often using several different threads in your design and it's a pain matching up bobbin thread. And expensive.

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    I use Bottom Line in the bobbin for FMQ and also for embroidery.

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    A very helpful topic. Thanks.

    I just checked Bottom Line thread out on Amazon. For the 1420 yards spool it is $6.07. Not sure if you were to order 5 spools if it would qualify for their free shipping. :-D

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