Go Back  Quiltingboard Forums > Main
Are color catchers, Synthrapol and Retayne used for different things/times? >

Are color catchers, Synthrapol and Retayne used for different things/times?

Are color catchers, Synthrapol and Retayne used for different things/times?

Old 07-13-2012, 03:54 AM
  #1  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Quilt Dreamland
Posts: 1,584
Default Are color catchers, Synthrapol and Retayne used for different things/times?

Are all of these products totally interchangeable? Or do they do different jobs?
Is it best to use them at different stages of quilt making?
Please explain as I have not used any of them.

THX
LavenderBlue is offline  
Old 07-13-2012, 04:19 AM
  #2  
Power Poster
 
PaperPrincess's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 11,229
Default

Here's my take
Retayne sets the colors. You would use this to set the die in your fabric, before you cut the fabric. This should stop further bleeding and keep the strong fabric color.
Synthrapol keeps excess die shed in the water, in the water, not deposited back on the fabric. This again stops further bleeding, but in a different way. The fabric color may be slightly lighter when you're done because you are basically washing out excess die. Usually before you cut the fabric, but you can use it on completed tops too.
Color Catchers are similar to Synthrapol, draws die bled in the water into the color catcher so it won't get deposited on another part of the quilt. Usually used with completed tops.
PaperPrincess is offline  
Old 07-13-2012, 04:38 AM
  #3  
Super Member
 
ghostrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,688
Default

Retayne is used to prewash fabric before using it in anything. It sets loose dyes. Do not, repeat not, use it for washing fabrics that have been made into something or you risk setting loose dyes onto other fabrics.

Synthrapol keeps loose dyes suspended in the wash water so they do not settle on your quilt. It's pretty much the same as Color Catchers.

As for white vinegar, it does not work for setting dyes these days. It used to, but the dyes have all changed and all vinegar does now is get grunge out of dirty laundry. It no longer works on setting dyes and hasn't for quite some time now.

This thread has some great information on this topic.
http://www.quiltingboard.com/main-f1...l-t127678.html
ghostrider is offline  
Old 07-13-2012, 04:43 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
pinkcastle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Washington state
Posts: 474
Default

I agree with PaperPrincess. This is my understanding as well. I have only used Color Catchers when I prewash my fabric. I am think about overdyeing some fabric that I have, so I have been reading up on Retayne and Synthrapol.
pinkcastle is offline  
Old 07-13-2012, 10:38 AM
  #5  
Power Poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 16,753
Default

Ghostie ... everything you have said, makes sense from what I have come to understand from previous threads. Including many of your posts on those threads! Thanks for re-stating all!

A question ... do you think there is more reason to use Synthrapol ? colour catches? or no real difference and just a personal preference?

THANK YOU!!!
QuiltE is offline  
Old 07-13-2012, 11:15 AM
  #6  
Super Member
 
ghostrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,688
Default

Originally Posted by QuiltE View Post
Ghostie ... everything you have said, makes sense from what I have come to understand from previous threads. Including many of your posts on those threads! Thanks for re-stating all!

A question ... do you think there is more reason to use Synthrapol ? colour catches? or no real difference and just a personal preference?

THANK YOU!!!
Personally, I think it makes far, far more sense to treat the cause instead of continually treating the symptoms. Retayne does that, the others don't. I test for running and treat with Retayne when necessary. End of problem.

When dealing with non-prewashed blocks from other quilters, I use Color Catchers until the colors stop running because they're easier to use in a hand wash, don't require such high water temps, and are readily available. One box lasts me a very long time.
ghostrider is offline  
Old 07-13-2012, 11:37 AM
  #7  
Power Poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 16,753
Default

Oh, yes, I forgot to say ... I am of the pre-wash abuse mindset!

I see synthrapol and colour catchers as a quality control ... or safety check when uncertain! So, thus why I wondered what you thought of the two in comparison.

What I like about colour catchers is, that I have "evidence" ... it's either white or not. I haven't used synthrapol, but I bet I'd always be "wondering" if there was any colour running around in the washer!
QuiltE is offline  
Old 07-13-2012, 12:30 PM
  #8  
Power Poster
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: MN
Posts: 22,551
Default

Anyone know what happens if one takes a 'bleeder' and treats it with Retayne and Synthropol at the same time?
bearisgray is offline  
Old 07-13-2012, 12:59 PM
  #9  
Super Member
 
ghostrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,688
Default

What would be the goal, bear?

Last edited by ghostrider; 07-13-2012 at 01:02 PM.
ghostrider is offline  
Old 07-13-2012, 01:12 PM
  #10  
Power Poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 16,753
Default

Originally Posted by bearisgray View Post
Anyone know what happens if one takes a 'bleeder' and treats it with Retayne and Synthropol at the same time?
I'm kind of like Ghostie here .... huh?

Wouldn't they start fighting (kidding!!).
Maybe not kidding .. maybe there'd be a chemical reaction in your washer?

A thought here ... is it not correct that you first need to wash the fabric, to get the excess dye out (particularly batiks) before setting with retayne. What I'm suggesting here, that there's a certain amount of excess dye that you'll never set and needs to be washed out.
QuiltE is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bearisgray
Main
24
04-15-2018 08:25 PM
marand
Main
4
11-23-2016 08:28 AM
okie2tx
Main
8
12-12-2012 11:34 AM
jadet
Main
12
05-28-2010 11:38 AM
sunnyhope
Main
4
06-03-2009 03:41 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.