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1. ## Do I really need a special ruler to...

make the corner piece for a quilt set on point? Really?

2. No. There are plenty of online charts to tell you how to cut it.

3. Here's a chart for setting quilts on-point. Hope this helps.
http://quiltbug.com/articles/on-point.htm

4. Originally Posted by Valerie Ann
make the corner piece for a quilt set on point? Really?
The CORNER TRIANGLE is just a big HST.

The SETTING TRIANGLE (at the end of the on-point row) is just a big QST .

Both units are cut from squares (unless the fabric is directional/striped and you want to control the flow of the print design).

5. you can also calculate your own and use any square ruler...measure the length of the side of the on=point block that needs a corner....let's say it measures 10 3/4, or 10.75. (don't forget seam allowances). Use a calculator (unless you have one of those wonderful brains that can do this in your head) and divide that number by the quilter's magic number - 1.414 - and you get the length of one side of a square you need for two setting corners. 10.75 div by 1.414 = 7.6, which is between one half (.5) and 5/8's (.625) so I'd cut a square 7 5/8th's, cut it diagonally in half and you have two corner setting triangles for your corner block that measures 10 3/4 on the side. This gives you a little to trim off....cut a second square this size and you have another two HST's to finish the quilt...and the sides are on the grain. You can trim it off after you stitch if you finger press then match the center point of the block and the triangle - since the diagonal is on the bias, make sure not to stretch, and that you have equal amounts hanging off each end before you sew.

6. I have the super large 30" set in triangle ruler and it saves me a lot of figuring. I can just cut the size of the set in piece according to the size of the blocks. I don't need it but I don't need 95% of the quilting items I buy. I just want them.

7. Quiltville.com has a chart that printed off. I'm on my smart phone so I can't copy the link.

8. nope, but they work great ;-)

9. The rulers/tools make it easier to cut those triangles out of strip of fabric, not cutting a big square (requiring more fabric)

10. Not a 'need' but a nice addition. You will probably use the ruler frequently once you learn the use. It makes the cutting and piecing go much quicker. I love mine.

Then if you can use a coupon ... well, what a deal!

11. Why agonize over buying or not buying a ruler. It's a ruler.

12. Originally Posted by BellaBoo
I have the super large 30" set in triangle ruler and it saves me a lot of figuring. I can just cut the size of the set in piece according to the size of the blocks. I don't need it but I don't need 95% of the quilting items I buy. I just want them.
Who makes a ruler that big? Did you get it a quilt show, internet?.....Sounds interesting, more info please. Thanks

13. Not really.

14. Originally Posted by auntpiggylpn
Quiltville.com has a chart that printed off. I'm on my smart phone so I can't copy the link.

Bonnie has not only the math to calcutate your own, but a chart with lots of sizes already figured out.

http://quiltville.blogspot.com/2005/...nt-quilts.html

15. Originally Posted by BellaBoo
I don't need it but I don't need 95% of the quilting items I buy. I just want them.
hahaaha BellaBoo you are a gadget girl after my own heart.

16. I bought the ruler when I was in Paducah at Eleanore Burns quilt store. It's probably on her website. If you are going to Paducah quilt show, Eleanor Burns usually has coupons on her site to use at her downtown store during quilt week.

17. Originally Posted by EasyPeezy
Here's a chart for setting quilts on-point. Hope this helps.
http://quiltbug.com/articles/on-point.htm
Thank you for posting that!

18. I've been wondering about this topic too. A more basic question I'm wondering, is there a better way to cut them grain wise? I've heard of cutting squares on point so the inside quarter triangles are on grain; seems like a lot of work and I'm thinking better to have the grain on the outside edge, right? Any tips on this or am I overthinking it to worry about the grain?

Also, is it safe to assume that the only time a ruler or the charts come in to play is when you don't already have good pattern directions?

By the way, window shopping I found a big setting triangle ruler on Nancy's Notions http://www.nancysnotions.com/product/flip+n+set+tool.do that looks nice because it stores folded in half and has a wide range of sizes. Anyone use/recommend this one?

19. Originally Posted by JenF
I've been wondering about this topic too. A more basic question I'm wondering, is there a better way to cut them grain wise? I've heard of cutting squares on point so the inside quarter triangles are on grain; seems like a lot of work and I'm thinking better to have the grain on the outside edge, right? Any tips on this or am I overthinking it to worry about the grain?
It totally depends on what edge is most important to you that is NOT bias. I really hate bias on my edges. If the long edge of the triangle is going to be my border edge, then I cut a sq and then in quarters. That makes the short edges bias, and the long leg straight/cross grain. If I want the short legs on the grain, I cut a hst. This makes the long leg bias and the short legs on the grain.

Here is a good explanation of the differences...and I think there is a calculator to help with cutting measurements:
http://www.msquilting.com/Half%20Squ...20Square_t.htm

Originally Posted by JenF
Also, is it safe to assume that the only time a ruler or the charts come in to play is when you don't already have good pattern directions?
Alot of patterns, that I consider well written, don't always use the most effecient method or one that works best for me. Sometimes the best/easiest way is not easy to convey or write down. I ALWAYS modify patterns to suit my taste/ability/desire to try new methods/what works for me.

JMHO

20. That's a handy chart at the quilt bug
Cindy

21. Originally Posted by ewecansew
The rulers/tools make it easier to cut those triangles out of strip of fabric, not cutting a big square (requiring more fabric)
Please explain - wouldn't both methods use the same amount of fabric just in a different starting shape? Thanks.

22. It is generally easier to cut a 9 inch strip and cut your setting triangles from it, than to cut an 18 inch square and cut it on one or two diagonals. You also only need to buy 9 inches instead of 18.

23. But actually you only NEED paper, pencil, scissors, needle and thread, everything else is luxury, but I would not be a quilter without the modern tools. We all choose which tools are most worthwhile to ourselves.

24. What a great site! Thanks for the tip.
Originally Posted by EasyPeezy
Here's a chart for setting quilts on-point. Hope this helps.
http://quiltbug.com/articles/on-point.htm

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