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Thread: Elmer's for basting...NOT!

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    Elmer's for basting...NOT!

    Was curious about the references I've seen on the Board about using Elmer's Spray Adhesive for basting quilts so I checked it out today. BEWARE, while the can intimated that it could be "temporary" if you read the instructions you will see what they mean by "temporary". The adhesive cannot be washed out like the sprays made specifically for basting. Basting sprays are made to be washed out with soap and water. Elmer's may say "temporary" but please read what they mean by that. Their interpretation of "temporary" does not mean that it can be washed out.
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    What does it mean?

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    The Elmers glue for basting that I use is the "school glue" - not a spray. This IS washable and works wonderfully - heat setting (pressing) the binding or pieces - they stay put and I don't mangle my hands with pins.
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    The spray adhesive is a different product from the school glue. The Elmer's spray adhesive is used by some people to baste quilt layers, similar to 505 and other spray basting adhesives.

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    The glue sticks are fine for use for temporary tacking, such as paperpiecing that kind of thing. I always keep a stick or two around.

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    The Elmer's spray adhesive says it it temporary for a time and then is permanent. Allows you to do some adjustments at first. I don't thing the Elmer's spray for quilt basting is the best way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LindaM View Post
    The Elmers glue for basting that I use is the "school glue" - not a spray. This IS washable and works wonderfully - heat setting (pressing) the binding or pieces - they stay put and I don't mangle my hands with pins.
    Yep. That's the only Elmer's I use and it is wonderfu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prism99 View Post
    The spray adhesive is a different product from the school glue. The Elmer's spray adhesive is used by some people to baste quilt layers, similar to 505 and other spray basting adhesives.
    They shouldn't use it for basting quilts........it does not wash out...it becomes permanent. It says so right on the can.
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    regular elmers glue in a white bottle is what we use for basting! elmers spray adhesive is a totally different product- not to be used on textile projects---it is more of a 'use in the garage' product! it is nothing like basting spray- we use regular elmers glue to baste bindings in place- or appliques----not for basting a quilt sandwich for quilting.
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    I use Glue Sticks for all my applique work. I love it because I can pick up and move around any piece that is not in the just right position for about 30minutes before it sets firmly enough for me to machine applique it. Once set it doesn't gum up your needle either. I hate the stiffness that the different heat bond products can give items.

    I use "School Glue" all the time to baste my quilts after I first heard people talking about using it. I've had no problem washing it out using plain ol' water and laundry soap. I wash all my quilts in cold water and that doesn't effect it being washed out either. If you get it on too thick, it can be a little hard to sew through. Like I used to tell my students, "Just a dot, not a lot"

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    In the last month I have spray basted two really big quilts, one is 108" square and the other is 96"x105". I cannot fathom basting them with school glue. Honestly, I have to admit that I can't think of an instance where I would use school glue for basting anything. I bought that little bottle of glue with the really fine metal tip and have not used it either, but then again, I haven't done anything with applique. Getting ready to do a landscape so it might come in handy for that.
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    I think we're taliking apples and oranges here. I think the original post was about using Elmer's spray adhesive for basting quilt layers together before quilting. The Elmers school glue is used for binding, applique, etc. I've used Elmers spray adhesive for DIY projects but can't imagine using it on a quilt. That stuff is really sticky, gummy, and stinky! I use 505 for spray basting and Elmers white school glue for applique and binding instead of pinning.
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    Here's a link to the Elmer's Spray Adhesive referred to in the original post:
    http://www.elmers.com/product/detail/E451

    This is *not* the school glue we all use for bindings and applique! Some people are using the Spray Adhesive to baste quilt layers together because it is considerably less expensive than 505. I personally prefer to spend a couple of extra dollars to be sure I am using a product designed for use in quilts, that is truly temporary, and that is easily washed out. Guess I am not the experimenter type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa_wanna_b_quilter View Post
    Yep. That's the only Elmer's I use and it is wonderfu.

    I use the glue sticks for my bindings....and I stock up at back-to-school time when they are real cheap. For spray basting, I use Dritz...cheap and washes out well. I also looked at the Elmers spray adhesive and it does say permanent (that means it won't wash out).
    Last edited by Buckeye Rose; 02-27-2012 at 11:38 AM.

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    Elmer's spray adhesive is good for a wall hanging or fabric project that will not be washed. Once glued it will stay.
    Got fabric?

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    A different question regarding permanent spray adhesive

    I have a batting that I suspect will beard. Do you think spraying it with the permanent adhesive would help to prevent this?
    Last edited by quiltsRfun; 02-27-2012 at 03:56 PM.

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    quiltsRfun, if you use permanent adhesive you will ruin your quilt. I sent you a PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    quiltsRfun, if you use permanent adhesive you will ruin your quilt. I sent you a PM.
    Guess I didn't give enough information. I was thinking of spraying the batting, letting it dry, then use something else to baste it to the quilt top and back. I probably won't try it cause it would mean I'd have to buy a can of the permanent adhesive. Less trouble and expense to just get another batting. It was mainly just one of those "I wonder if. . ." questions.

    Aren't the quilters on this forum great! Delilah went the extra mile to make sure I didn't ruin my quilt.

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    I am more worried about what it might do to my sewing machine. I don't want to use something that is not going to wash out or is not intended to be sewn through. Why chance it when for a few more dollars, I could get 505. Since it was just an "I wonder if question" it has made for a great discussion.

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    I use the washable Elmer's school glue, too. Coyotemagic, I like your motto, "Just a dot, Not a lot."
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    I only use the washable glue for applique. It really holds my pieces in place and washes out.

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    I always use 505 and never use anything else. I have never had problems with 505 although it is a bit pricey!

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    Does anyone use Elmer's school glue, glue stick, or Ague Net to hold the stablizers to the fabric in their embroidery hoops? I've never used anything but Sulky KK 2000 and 505 Spray and Fix. I wouldn't mind a good cheaper substitute, but not something that hurts this horribly expensive machine.
    Last edited by TanyaL; 02-28-2012 at 05:57 AM.

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    Thanks for the useful information, thanks for sharing !
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    Quote Originally Posted by greensleeves View Post
    The Elmer's spray adhesive says it it temporary for a time and then is permanent. Allows you to do some adjustments at first. I don't thing the Elmer's spray for quilt basting is the best way to go.
    I agree. Beware.

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