Help find this advent, Please.
11-23-2012, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MartiMorga
That all looks easy enough, except the pockets for the advent gifts are missing. How about instead of HST try something similar to the pinapple technique. Have a square and sew a folded square on top when assembling?
Learn something new every day.
I had not a clue what an advent gift was, nor that there were pockets to put one in.
Ah, and that now explains the color placement of the HST blocks in the borders.
Yep, your solution would work perfectly.
That would require 24 squares of each color, instead of the 12 indicated above.
And I would cut them all at 2.5" exactly since there is no diagonal seam allowance to worry about.
Fold and press the red squares in half on the diagonal.
Place on a white square, and sew it with 1/8" seam allowance on the red sides.
(I think doing this extra step will just make handling the HST blocks easier.
I suppose you could pin the two pieces while sewing 2 blocks together, but it doesn't seem like that much more work to not have loose, flapping edges.)
Then you can just prepare the borders strips the same way as posted previously.
And now you really have to take care of the positioning of the blocks, because if a block is upside now, you can't put a gift in.
Which seems to be the whole purpose of the quilt, right?
11-24-2012, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DOTTYMO
The quilt in your picture, the pattern is copyright so no can get. Try the second one I found and see if you can find the pattern.
With all due respect, I think you totally misunderstand the nature of copyright protection and copyright infringement, especially regarding patterns, regardless of which side of the pond you are on.
Those are MY instructions.
Written by ME in MY words.
Measurements calculated by ME.
Drawings made by ME (via my licensed copies of various software).
Moi, moi and moi.
As I stated above, I had not a clue what an advent gift was, much less a quilt block made for one.
So it is highly improbable - like, impossible - that I would have a pattern in my possession to copy, or even to use as a reference.
You want to know the one infringement on this whole thread?
While Ariane probably doesn't know it, but re-posting the picture in the op, without permission from the photographer, was an infringement.
Now, I get that it's the interweb, and things are so easy to copy, and everyone thinks it's a free-for-all, but most just don't realize it.
And the mods here never do anything about that so I just shrug it off.
But using a simple link would have sufficed, and been the proper way to show the photo.
Next time. ;-)
To me, this whole thing was just a mathematical exercise.
If you notice in my somewhat lengthy posts, I usually NEVER, ever post photos by others, and the posts are always link-heavy - exactly because of that issue.
I even had a bit of trepidation when I marked-up your own pictures on the JP thread.
And I specifically mentioned how uncomfortable I was marking up the picture from Cheryl's .pdf instructions.
So I think I'm pretty consistent on the issue.
Nor do I ever pass off work as totally mine without giving credit, or at least a shout-out for inspiration, to the source - as best as I know it.
(unlike a good portion of posts in the Pictures forum - you don't find out until the 2nd page of replies that the quilt in question was, in fact, an EXACT copy of a published pattern. Makes me want to delete my - what a great design and color selection comment - since, duh, the poster didn't actually do any of that.)
But I digress.
I assure you no copyright was infringed upon by anything contained in my posts.
Nor, btw, did Angie even mention a pattern on her blog, just that it was a workshop.
You might suggest to her that she also slap her name and/or blog address on all her photos.
I'm sure the photo was copied and downloaded, not just from her blog, but from here as well, and it will be copied even more, and in those cases there will be NO way to even track it back to her - if she did have a pattern for sale.
Or just to give an "inspired by the Advent calendar on Angie's blog, blah, blah, blah."
I'm sure she would appreciate the shout-out.
Which I'm sure Ariane will do when she posts her finished block.
Last edited by MTS; 11-24-2012 at 04:42 AM.
11-24-2012, 07:51 AM
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Very well stated. And good advice.
Originally Posted by MTS
Dotty,
With all due respect, I think you totally misunderstand the nature of copyright protection and copyright infringement, especially regarding patterns, regardless of which side of the pond you are on.
Those are MY instructions.
Written by ME in MY words.
Measurements calculated by ME.
Drawings made by ME (via my licensed copies of various software).
Moi, moi and moi.
As I stated above, I had not a clue what an advent gift was, much less a quilt block made for one.
So it is highly improbable - like, impossible - that I would have a pattern in my possession to copy, or even to use as a reference.
You want to know the one infringement on this whole thread?
While Ariane probably doesn't know it, but re-posting the picture in the op, without permission from the photographer, was an infringement.
Now, I get that it's the interweb, and things are so easy to copy, and everyone thinks it's a free-for-all, but most just don't realize it.
And the mods here never do anything about that so I just shrug it off.
But using a simple link would have sufficed, and been the proper way to show the photo.
Next time. ;-)
To me, this whole thing was just a mathematical exercise.
If you notice in my somewhat lengthy posts, I usually NEVER, ever post photos by others, and the posts are always link-heavy - exactly because of that issue.
I even had a bit of trepidation when I marked-up your own pictures on the JP thread.
And I specifically mentioned how uncomfortable I was marking up the picture from Cheryl's .pdf instructions.
So I think I'm pretty consistent on the issue.
Nor do I ever pass off work as totally mine without giving credit, or at least a shout-out for inspiration, to the source - as best as I know it.
(unlike a good portion of posts in the Pictures forum - you don't find out until the 2nd page of replies that the quilt in question was, in fact, an EXACT copy of a published pattern. Makes me want to delete my - what a great design and color selection comment - since, duh, the poster didn't actually do any of that.)
But I digress.
I assure you no copyright was infringed upon by anything contained in my posts.
Nor, btw, did Angie even mention a pattern on her blog, just that it was a workshop.
You might suggest to her that she also slap her name and/or blog address on all her photos.
I'm sure the photo was copied and downloaded, not just from her blog, but from here as well, and it will be copied even more, and in those cases there will be NO way to even track it back to her - if she did have a pattern for sale.
Or just to give an "inspired by the Advent calendar on Angie's blog, blah, blah, blah."
I'm sure she would appreciate the shout-out.
Which I'm sure Ariane will do when she posts her finished block.
With all due respect, I think you totally misunderstand the nature of copyright protection and copyright infringement, especially regarding patterns, regardless of which side of the pond you are on.
Those are MY instructions.
Written by ME in MY words.
Measurements calculated by ME.
Drawings made by ME (via my licensed copies of various software).
Moi, moi and moi.
As I stated above, I had not a clue what an advent gift was, much less a quilt block made for one.
So it is highly improbable - like, impossible - that I would have a pattern in my possession to copy, or even to use as a reference.
You want to know the one infringement on this whole thread?
While Ariane probably doesn't know it, but re-posting the picture in the op, without permission from the photographer, was an infringement.
Now, I get that it's the interweb, and things are so easy to copy, and everyone thinks it's a free-for-all, but most just don't realize it.
And the mods here never do anything about that so I just shrug it off.
But using a simple link would have sufficed, and been the proper way to show the photo.
Next time. ;-)
To me, this whole thing was just a mathematical exercise.
If you notice in my somewhat lengthy posts, I usually NEVER, ever post photos by others, and the posts are always link-heavy - exactly because of that issue.
I even had a bit of trepidation when I marked-up your own pictures on the JP thread.
And I specifically mentioned how uncomfortable I was marking up the picture from Cheryl's .pdf instructions.
So I think I'm pretty consistent on the issue.
Nor do I ever pass off work as totally mine without giving credit, or at least a shout-out for inspiration, to the source - as best as I know it.
(unlike a good portion of posts in the Pictures forum - you don't find out until the 2nd page of replies that the quilt in question was, in fact, an EXACT copy of a published pattern. Makes me want to delete my - what a great design and color selection comment - since, duh, the poster didn't actually do any of that.)
But I digress.
I assure you no copyright was infringed upon by anything contained in my posts.
Nor, btw, did Angie even mention a pattern on her blog, just that it was a workshop.
You might suggest to her that she also slap her name and/or blog address on all her photos.
I'm sure the photo was copied and downloaded, not just from her blog, but from here as well, and it will be copied even more, and in those cases there will be NO way to even track it back to her - if she did have a pattern for sale.
Or just to give an "inspired by the Advent calendar on Angie's blog, blah, blah, blah."
I'm sure she would appreciate the shout-out.
Which I'm sure Ariane will do when she posts her finished block.
11-24-2012, 11:13 AM
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Hi, I am Angie, the owner of the photo in question... I have jumped through the hoops and had to join your group so that I could reply. In her defence, and I'm sure she doesn't need defending... What Dotty meant is that the pattern for the quilt has a copyright on it... which is what I had told her when she asked me for the instructions. She wasn't saying that the photo has copyright. I don't know who to give credit to for the pattern.
I made my quilt over 15 years ago using a pattern in a borrowed book, I have no idea what the book title is so I can't even share that info. You're on the right track with the instructions you invented but those pockets are 3 1/2" squares folded in half.
I get your drift about putting my info on my photos so that people can pop over to my blog... it's great idea but I don't know how to do it.... will find out!
Thanks for all the interest in my Advent Tree workshop posts.
I made my quilt over 15 years ago using a pattern in a borrowed book, I have no idea what the book title is so I can't even share that info. You're on the right track with the instructions you invented but those pockets are 3 1/2" squares folded in half.
I get your drift about putting my info on my photos so that people can pop over to my blog... it's great idea but I don't know how to do it.... will find out!
Thanks for all the interest in my Advent Tree workshop posts.
11-24-2012, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by angiequiltsinthepotteries
Hi, I am Angie, the owner of the photo in question... I have jumped through the hoops and had to join your group so that I could reply. In her defence, and I'm sure she doesn't need defending... What Dotty meant is that the pattern for the quilt has a copyright on it... which is what I had told her when she asked me for the instructions. She wasn't saying that the photo has copyright. I don't know who to give credit to for the pattern.
I made my quilt over 15 years ago using a pattern in a borrowed book, I have no idea what the book title is so I can't even share that info. You're on the right track with the instructions you invented but those pockets are 3 1/2" squares folded in half.
I get your drift about putting my info on my photos so that people can pop over to my blog... it's great idea but I don't know how to do it.... will find out!
Thanks for all the interest in my Advent Tree workshop posts.
I made my quilt over 15 years ago using a pattern in a borrowed book, I have no idea what the book title is so I can't even share that info. You're on the right track with the instructions you invented but those pockets are 3 1/2" squares folded in half.
I get your drift about putting my info on my photos so that people can pop over to my blog... it's great idea but I don't know how to do it.... will find out!
Thanks for all the interest in my Advent Tree workshop posts.
Sorry to have caused such commotion. Lesson learned, link only:-)
11-24-2012, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by angiequiltsinthepotteries
Hi, I am Angie, the owner of the photo in question... I have jumped through the hoops and had to join your group so that I could reply. In her defence, and I'm sure she doesn't need defending... What Dotty meant is that the pattern for the quilt has a copyright on it... which is what I had told her when she asked me for the instructions. She wasn't saying that the photo has copyright. I don't know who to give credit to for the pattern.
I made my quilt over 15 years ago using a pattern in a borrowed book, I have no idea what the book title is so I can't even share that info. You're on the right track with the instructions you invented but those pockets are 3 1/2" squares folded in half.
I get your drift about putting my info on my photos so that people can pop over to my blog... it's great idea but I don't know how to do it.... will find out!
Thanks for all the interest in my Advent Tree workshop posts.
I made my quilt over 15 years ago using a pattern in a borrowed book, I have no idea what the book title is so I can't even share that info. You're on the right track with the instructions you invented but those pockets are 3 1/2" squares folded in half.
I get your drift about putting my info on my photos so that people can pop over to my blog... it's great idea but I don't know how to do it.... will find out!
Thanks for all the interest in my Advent Tree workshop posts.
11-24-2012, 11:23 PM
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Advent Quilt
[QUOTE=maryellen2u;5677545]So Angie with all of our interest are you going to post a pattern we can buy, a tutorial...
No, sorry I can't. It is not my pattern to share, sell or copy... I do not know the original designer details and so cannot give the correct credit so it's better that I don't.
As I said before, if I knew which book the pattern was taken from, I would tell you.
No, sorry I can't. It is not my pattern to share, sell or copy... I do not know the original designer details and so cannot give the correct credit so it's better that I don't.
As I said before, if I knew which book the pattern was taken from, I would tell you.
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