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    janome 8900

    Does anyone have opinions on the Janome new 8900?

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    Saw this one today - lots to the machine. Very new. Was given a price of $2000.00 because I mentioned that is my limit. I am pretty sure it was the 8900. Suppose to take the place of the 7700 Horizon. I did not spend much time with it. Will go back with my samples, etc. The stitch they showed me was quite nice. Was too much to take in for first time visit.

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    janome 8900

    If you were quoted $2,000 for the 8900. Buy it! I was quoted $4,000!
    Please PM me the contact for your store. Thank you! Great Christmas present

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    The machine which takes the place of the Horizon 7700 is the 7700 (without the Horizon). It looks just like the Horizon 7700 but it's not red. It retails for just under $2,000. The 8900 is their new top of the line machine, which does retail around $4,000 and they've also come out with an 8200 which is like the 8900 but with fewer stitches and minus a few features. I understand it will go for about $2700.

    I've heard very good things from owners of the 8900; it's like the original 7700 except some of the features are slightly different and easier to use. I'm thinking of trading up, but haven't gotten a price yet.

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    Total dream machine. I would have kept my 7700 but the first one I got was a lemon (changed out by the dealer no problem). The fact they are stopping production after just 2 years kind of freaked me out so because I know so many sewers who have had problems with the 7700 I traded it in for a 8900.
    It probably wouldn't have crossed my mind to do so except a part fell off in mid-November and late-December they were still waiting for the part.

    Total dream machine. One of the many things they Really got right was the O patchwork foot with the D95 stitch.

    The first test 9 patch I made using the default setting came out dead on the money.
    I think I made 8-10 before it hit it right on the 7700.

    Did I say it is a dream machine yet?

    With my trade in I paid 1999.00 for it and I feel like it is the machine I'll be buried with.
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    KalamaQuilts ... can you give us some more insights as to which features have been dropped/added for the models you are mentioning? I've got the 6600 now, love it ... and the main thing I would like is more throat space for working with bigger projects. And easier switching of the feet, sure would be nice!
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    I'm going to try to get down to my dealer's by February to check out the 7700. Would love more throat space.

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    so far I see a lot more embroidery stitches, and along with those
    there is a 9mm feed dog! The feet are a lot wider consequently. You can use the standard Janome feet, but if you forget and do some 9mm stitching you will be lucky if all you bust is a needle.

    The part that slides out from around the free arm is the same I think, and I think I got all the same feet I got with the 7700.
    Instead of the computerized throat plate for single needle and embroidery change requirements, the 8900 comes with two throat plates.
    Comes with the identical acrylic surround, the same carry case you aren't supposed to carry

    Thread track, bobbin winding, and bobbin case are still the same.
    Identical footprint to the 7700 so it went right into my table like it was born for it.
    The feet are easier to switch as the acufeed system has been modified so it sits higher in the back.

    When I finish piecing my Bonnie Hunter mystery quilt I'm going to load the first quilt to be quilted, I'll probably have more to say then.

    Would love to hear from others who have the machine.
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    Thanks KalamaQuilts for the extra info.



    For those interested, here's a side-by-side comparison of the new 8900 and 8200 from the Janome site.
    http://www.janomespecials.com/mc8900-mc8200/compare.htm

    and another side-by-side for the older 6500, 6600 and 7700
    http://janome.ca/machines/Horizon/compare1.php

    Now hopefully I can do an apples to apples comparison!
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    I've been thinking of upgrading my machine also. I've been sewing on a Janome Quilters Companion 6260 for almost 10 years and was looking into the 7700. Now that I've heard about the 8900 and 8200 I have much more to think about. The 8900 may be too expensive but the 8200 could be manageable. Makes me wonder if Janome realizes that the 7700 just wasn't working out. Seems odd to phase it out after a couple of years. So would it be wise to avoid it. Or will Janome drop the price lower to get rid of the inventory they have. I will be taking a trip to my Janome dealer soon to ask many questions. Glad to hear you have found your dream machine. Happy sewing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KalamaQuilts View Post
    Total dream machine. I would have kept my 7700 but the first one I got was a lemon (changed out by the dealer no problem). The fact they are stopping production after just 2 years kind of freaked me out so because I know so many sewers who have had problems with the 7700 I traded it in for a 8900.
    I'm not sure where you heard they are stopping production of the 7700, but that's not correct. There are thousands of 7700 owners who are very happy with their machines. The 7700 will continue to be produced under the Janome New Home name; with the newer machines out the price on the 7700 has been lowered and dealers will be permitted to sell it online. The MSRP is half of the 8900's MSRP and the 7700, with the same throat space and many of the same features as the 8900, will be a good option for many.

    From my experience, the leap from 6600 to 7700 was huge. FMQ is a dream on the 7700 with consistent stitches, auto tension and the adjustable free motion feet. I've got a perfect 1/4" seam with the O2 foot and the auto single hole plate and I've never had to fiddle with tension at all. The extra 2" of throat space makes a huge difference. I can recommend the 7700.

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    I'm glad that one of you brought up the feet. That's something I'll need to ask about when I see my dealer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyndaOH View Post
    From my experience, the leap from 6600 to 7700 was huge. FMQ is a dream on the 7700 with consistent stitches, auto tension and the adjustable free motion feet. I've got a perfect 1/4" seam with the O2 foot and the auto single hole plate and I've never had to fiddle with tension at all. The extra 2" of throat space makes a huge difference. I can recommend the 7700.
    You have me confused here ...
    **what does the 7700 have that the 6600 does not, for consistent FMQ stitches?
    **you mentioned the 7700 has auto tension and adjustable FMQ feet ... is that the same blue dot bobbin case? and the specialized FMQ feet that you use with the 6600? or are you referenciing something else?

    The auto single hole plate would be nice .... and the 2" extra throat would be amazing.

    If you'd help me sort out my confusion ... I'd sure appreciate it!
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    I have a friend who moved from a 6600 to a 7700 and she said the learning curve was huge for her but that now that she's used to the new machine, she loves it.

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    I have the Horizon 7700 and I really like it. It's not fussy at all. I also have the Juki F-600 and although it does not have the addition space like the Horizon, for the money it is unbeatable. I love sewing machines so I have a bunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltE View Post
    You have me confused here ...
    **what does the 7700 have that the 6600 does not, for consistent FMQ stitches?
    **you mentioned the 7700 has auto tension and adjustable FMQ feet ... is that the same blue dot bobbin case? and the specialized FMQ feet that you use with the 6600? or are you referenciing something else?

    The auto single hole plate would be nice .... and the 2" extra throat would be amazing.

    If you'd help me sort out my confusion ... I'd sure appreciate it!
    I believe it's the auto tension which makes the difference when FMQing. Where I always felt the 6600 had a somewhat delicate balance of top and bottom tension, I never have to adjust my 7700 with the auto tension and although I have the blue dot bobbin case, I've never had to use it with the 7700.

    The adjustable convertible FMQ foot allows you to have the foot just barely skim the top of the fabric sandwich. The fabric doesn't get pulled up and down with each stitch but it's not held down so tightly that it's difficult for it to glide smoothly. I believe you could use this foot with the 6600 but I could be mistaken.

    Hope this helps!

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    LyndaOH .. yes, I have the extra set of FMQ that have that adjustability you described. It has been a huge difference.
    Also, have the blue dot.

    So I take that you are saying the 7700 has an "auto tension" feature that is not part of the 6600?

    Is it truly automatic ... as in it figures it out, itself? and you have nothing to do with it?

    Or is it something that you have to enable to work, and would have the option to turn it off?
    If so where is it located and how do you do it?



    I know there are at least three features on the 6600that are not on the 7700.
    One is the bobbin winder.
    I think another is that if you want to use the really large spools, that you have to use a separate stand.
    The other ... I forget.

    What did you notice missing, on the 7700?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcy J. View Post
    Saw this one today - lots to the machine. Very new. Was given a price of $2000.00 because I mentioned that is my limit. I am pretty sure it was the 8900. Suppose to take the place of the 7700 Horizon. I did not spend much time with it. Will go back with my samples, etc. The stitch they showed me was quite nice. Was too much to take in for first time visit.
    Better buy it at that price, it is more like $4000.00...great machine
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltE View Post
    LyndaOH .. yes, I have the extra set of FMQ that have that adjustability you described. It has been a huge difference.
    Also, have the blue dot.

    So I take that you are saying the 7700 has an "auto tension" feature that is not part of the 6600?

    Is it truly automatic ... as in it figures it out, itself? and you have nothing to do with it?

    Or is it something that you have to enable to work, and would have the option to turn it off?
    If so where is it located and how do you do it?



    I know there are at least three features on the 6600that are not on the 7700.
    One is the bobbin winder.
    I think another is that if you want to use the really large spools, that you have to use a separate stand.
    The other ... I forget.

    What did you notice missing, on the 7700?
    The auto tension is not available on the 6600. There's a dial right on top of the machine. Mine arrived from the factory set to Auto, but you can dial it up or down as needed. I have never had to touch the tension (top or bottom) and I've had my machine for about 18 months. I'm a pretty heavy user, I would say and work on everything from piecing to quilting, to bag making and everything in between.

    You have the option of turning it off just by turning the dial.

    The 7700 has a bobbin winder, just not a separate motor for the bobbin winder. I have not had an issue with this. I don't believe I ever wound a bobbin while I was sewing on my 6600.

    The cone stand is available (ask your dealer to throw it in). Unlike the 6600, the 7700's cone stand is stationary. You attach it with a couple of screws.

    I can't think of anything else that is missing!

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    Oh that was it .... the cone stand did not fold down for travel. Wouldn't be an issue for me, as about the only time it will travel, would be for servicing!

    Thanks for explaining about the auto-tension. Something for me to ask about when at the dealer!

    The bobbin winder ... I like being able to wind a bobbin, without unthreading the whole machine. However, not as big a deal, as that's only good, if you have an extra spool to wind from. Although, most piecing is done with one thread, so I usually do have an extra spool (or several!) on hand to do that. And that I usually wind several bobbins at a time for that thread.
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    The 7700 also has better/more lights than the 6600 (5 lights -- the 8900 only has 3). The serpentine stitch has greater adjustability (this is one of my favorite stitches). I do not believe the fabric guide came with the 6600.

    The new version of the 7700 does not come with the table or the soft case.

    The 8200 has a true serpentine and does not have the dial that the 7700 has (it is direct input). The 8900 still has the dial. Both the 8200 and the 8900 have no screws in the throat plate to make changing them easier.
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    Thanks ladies for all the info on the 7700...I was thinking about getting a 6600, but now think I will save a little longer for the bigger machine with more options. (Also QE thanks for asking the questions I wouldn't have known to ask since I haven't used the 6600 like you ave.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by carriem View Post
    Thanks ladies for all the info on the 7700...I was thinking about getting a 6600, but now think I will save a little longer for the bigger machine with more options. (Also QE thanks for asking the questions I wouldn't have known to ask since I haven't used the 6600 like you ave.)
    CarrieM ... thanks for the thanks!! I'm somewhat in a quandary! I want the extra space, but are there enough benefits for the upgrade costs at this time? The Bernina lures me because it has even more space and I have it in the back of my mind that Janome will match that in another yet to come model. Whichever you go for, you'll love it!!! Just don't keep putting it off for the next model up or else you'll never do it!!
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    Thanks for the info, everybody.

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    Starting with the 7700 the machines Janome builds for quilters have 11" of harp space. I think the 6600 has 9" and is a nice machine, one of the few that are still made with steel cases.

    It is mentioned above but one of the things on the 8900 in the category of why didn't they think of it sooner, is that popup throat plate, easy peasy. For Christmas I'd asked for a short ratchet to make it easier to get those screws off.

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